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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged

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change the game game

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i alliance your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to black with

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good evening

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yeah man fade to black

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bespoke radio for

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yeah man how you doing today is monday

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july 12th

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2021 194 days into the new year

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only 171 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total

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undisclosed location but it is beautiful

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that's right i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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is fade to black for kjcr the game

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a the planets i'm murals jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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all right i'm back

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took last week off to go and shoot this

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amazing film

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and uh i posted a bunch of stuff in

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i've got hundreds of pictures

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and uh we'll we'll get to all of that uh

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throughout the week but

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anyway i'm back and what an amazing

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week we have got here on fade to black

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two two very special guests danny

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and lou elizondo they are both with us

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swing back and pick up danny sheehan

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at the top of the hour tomorrow night

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grant cameron grant cameron is joining

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live from canada and then wednesday

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very special show this is one you're not

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debbie cobble is here she is joining us

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shooting this film she is an amazing

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thursday night if that's not enough

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for your adrenaline fix thursday night

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it's ross culfart and

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very excited about the show so is ross

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say ross is with us on thursday night

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this saturday july 17th

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with richard dolan linda molten howe lou

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you want to get your tickets right now

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everything is over at

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want to get your tickets now you don't

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want to miss this event truly

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the event of the year it's going down

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this saturday we'll talk

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come and hang out with all of the fader

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we've got all of our chat rooms open

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including spreaker kgra

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facebook hello hello to everybody over

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and of course right here on twitter and

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we have got not only a full show tonight

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on fade to black all right now

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um all of the the crazy news

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richard branson won the billionaire

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one-hour flight that included a few

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minutes of weightlessness

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on the edge of space the billionaire

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business mogul and founder of virgin

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galactic then revealed

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the mementos that he carried with him on

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elon musk immediately booked his

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own seat on a future virgin galactic

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cbs in the tv academy

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cedric the entertainer will make his

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emmy's hosting debut

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this september as the big show returns

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cedric the entertainer stars and

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the cbs comedy the neighborhood also

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friday we can't forget about that the

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event will take place at the microsoft

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now all right remember you remember that

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last week that huge ransom 70 million

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dollars right

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okay ransomware remember that well

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cassaya

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said today that it has fully restored

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hit by a ransomware attack that crippled

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hundreds of companies around the world

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the miami-based it firm said it had

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fully restored its signature vsa

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software operations which are used to

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the attack which was widely believed to

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come from a russian-based

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hacking group are evil affected an

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estimated 1500 businesses and prompted

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a ransom demand of 70

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million dollars now no word yet if

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cassaya paid out

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any or all of the 70 million dollars

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crack and happy birthday to

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starring lost star of avatar michelle

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her documentary about her little

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adventure is pretty incredible and you

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should go and check that out

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it's out there on youtube topher grace

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today is also 43 years old star of

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interstellar and american ultra

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richard simmons remember richard simmons

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richard simmons today

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is 73 and christy mcvee

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of fleetwood mac today is 78.

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the jim blossoms front man robin wilson

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today is 56 and dream theater's guitar

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john petrucci today is 54.

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our dead guy's birthday today is charlie

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on this day in history otd 1957.

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check this out dwight d eisenhower

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becomes the first president to ride in

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the newest advance in aviation

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technology

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the tic tac

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i kid i kid it was the helicopter

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were thinking church really

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really now's the helicopter fader fact

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self-proclaimed earthquake expert

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earthquake

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that would strike new madrid missouri

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in the united states on december 3rd

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the prediction caused schools in

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everybody panicked and media

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nothing happened and that

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is your favorite fact it's true story

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actually happened

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i remember it all right tonight

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this week on fade to black every week is

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it truly is every week is great um

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this week and things are planned out in

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advance and then as things

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you know start to fall into place you're

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like wow what an amazing week and

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and this week is just absolutely amazing

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for fade to black danny sheen and lou

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elizondo are with us tonight

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tomorrow night grant cameron is here

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live from canada

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wednesday night debbie cobble i am so

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looking forward to this conversation

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i did i just hung out with a debbie all

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last week

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and she is absolutely amazing

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and yes she was the subject of bud

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hopkins book

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intruders what a life of contact and

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we're going to discuss

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all of that on wednesday night with deb

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and then

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thursday night live from australia it's

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ross

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culthart live from australia

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and uh now this is what's strange about

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ross

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i want to uh just address something uh

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really quick before i move on

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um i did notice in twitter

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that uh ross's name was coming up

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uh you know and people were requesting

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that ross get uh

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interviewed here on fade to black as a

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guest and

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i'm just gonna let the cat out of the

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back ross and i have been setting this

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up now for a couple of months

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and uh we have been in contact with each

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other and then

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we were able to nail this down for this

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week

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and it's just a strange coincidence that

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everything was popping up there on

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twitter and then boom

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uh we have ross this week so that is the

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universe

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everything is connected people don't

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think it's not

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because it is and right now

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i am going to drink this steaming cup

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of river moon coffee in my fade to black

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mug there it again

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there it is thank you courtesy of

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alyssa okay

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um hot oh man it's so good

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rivermoonwellness.com go over to

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jimmychurchradio.com

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do it now get yourself

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some fade to black blend or the game

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changer blend both

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are absolutely amazing also over the

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weekend i want to thank

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mark sims uh deborah aguisti

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and uh everybody over at saturday night

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alive

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uh we had a great time on saturday that

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was

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absolutely amazing and uh danny sheehan

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was with us

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and uh stephen bassett uh

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rebecca i i could go down the list but

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i'm just gonna say this

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what uh what a great show on wednesday

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night saturday night alive and

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you guys should go and check that out if

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you ever get a chance but that was

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really really cool all right so wow what

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a weekend what a week

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and uh last week and here we go this

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week

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capped off with our event this saturday

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over the years

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different conspiracies that

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well went from crazy

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tinfoil hat stuff to full-on

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truth it's happened it's happened quite

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a bit more than you think

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and uh over the last

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week a real conspiracy actually happened

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and it's slowly unfolding in front of

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our very own eyes

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and it's only going to get crazier

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i'm speaking about the assassination

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of haiti's president now several of the

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men

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involved in the operation that killed

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hades president previously

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worked as u.s law enforcement

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now u.s investigators right now are are

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trying to grapple

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with an increasing number of florida

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links

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at least one of the men arrested by

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haitian authorities previously worked

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as an informant for the u.s drug

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enforcement

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administration and the dea

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admitted this in their own statement

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after rumors started to spread in haiti

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now when the story broke

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they were talking about oh there's u.s

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citizens involved with this and

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that was the day of the assassination

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the dea statement is this

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quote at times one of the suspects

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in the assassination of haitian

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president uh

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juvenile moyes was a confidential

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source to the dea

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now the dea continued with this quote

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following the assassination of president

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moyes the suspect

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reached out to his contacts at the dea

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a dea official assigned to haiti urged

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the suspect to surrender to local

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authorities and

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along with a u.s state department

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official provided information to the

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haitian government that assisted in the

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surrender and the arrest of the suspect

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and one other individual so right now

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the count

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is two the dea

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now also the reports

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as the assassination started

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and they were at the house they somebody

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yelled

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that it was the dea

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the dea also said it is aware of reports

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that some of the assassins did indeed

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yell

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d-e-a at the time of their attack the

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dec

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the dea said that none of the attackers

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were operating on behalf of the agency

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now other sided

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u.s ties including

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the fbi

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additional rumors that

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it doesn't comment on informants

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of course they don't except to say that

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it uses lawful sources to collect

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intelligence

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now moist was killed last wednesday in

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an operation at haitian authorities say

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involved at least

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28 people and this is where

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it starts to get nuts most of them

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columbian mercenaries

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hired through get ready for this

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a florida-based security company

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that's right authorities today

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announced that the arrest of a suspect

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who they say orchestrated the

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assassination

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and his name one christian

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emmanuel sanan

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now christian entered haiti on a private

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jet this past june and all of this

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according to haitian police chief

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leon charles

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haitian authorities say that sanan hired

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florida-based

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ctu security which then

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recruited men initially to provide

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is this crazy enough yet it gets better

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sanan and his representatives have

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stayed silent

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since his arrest but here we go

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the authorities in haiti have provided

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limited details on the

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investigation but the growing number of

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florida

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and u.s connections to the plot appears

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to portray an operation

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that at least partly hatched

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in the united states can you say bay of

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pigs i just did bay of pigs

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something is very very fishy

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about this entire conspiracy

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now you have to remember

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what the definition of conspiracy is

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because

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today conspiracy means

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something nuts right something else

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oh the ufo cover-up right that's a

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conspiracy

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right anything that's crazy it's mel

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gibson and conspiracy theories tin foil

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hat

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culture definition but the

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actual definition of conspiracy is this

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it's two or more people who conspire

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to commit a crime

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that's a conspiracy you go to court you

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get charged with conspiracy

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it's because you and your partner or

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three or four or five all conspire

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together to commit a crime

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and in this case it's an assassination

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of the president

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this is absolutely incredible since the

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assassination

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the big picture the big picture what is

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really going down

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the big picture geopolitics this stuff

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banana republics and what the united

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states has done throughout the caribbean

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and central and south america

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we know the exploits right well then we

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have

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this nugget as if all of it isn't crazy

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enough

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because since the assassination

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wait for it has requested us help

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to stabilize the country

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say what one government minister

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in haiti has requested the deployment of

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u.s

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troops that's right saying that

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terrorists might exploit the chaos

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to target airports and our gas reserves

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we need your help send your troops

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when asked about it the white house

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has only said that the matter was are

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you ready for this

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under review

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this is crazy and you just go back

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in the plot thickens

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you think about everything that we have

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done in the past

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things just like this now i'm not saying

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the us is responsible i am saying

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that a security firm in florida

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hired the team flew them to haiti

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on a private jet went to the president's

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house barged in and killed him

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think about that so now

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we have an actual crazy ass conspiracy

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breaking out in front of us it's right

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here

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these are the times that we live in

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these are the times

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when uh uh i started to investigate all

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of this

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and and put together everything and

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started to read through it i knew

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i knew from the moment that i read about

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the assassination

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and and the mention of u.s citizens

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being involved

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somebody got caught somebody got caught

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and this was go this was gonna unravel

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and this is what it's turned into

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i don't know the big picture yet but

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i've just laid it out for you

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now are we going to deploy u.s troops to

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haiti are we going to stabilize that

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country

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again president

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assassinated this just seems strange to

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me

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i'm not i'm not i'm not one i'm not

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i'm not accusing anybody of anything i'm

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just reading the facts in this and i

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am blown away blown away

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i have no idea where it's gonna go i

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don't i don't

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but it's right now in front of us

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playing out

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in real time this

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is fade to black i am your host jimmy

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church tonight

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what an amazing week an amazing week

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00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,080
because tonight is danny sheen and lou

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elizondo i'll be right back after the

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break with lou

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and then tomorrow night right here on

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this very program grant

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cameron so much to talk about we're

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gonna follow that up wednesday night

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debbie cobble joins us

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intruders that's right thursday night

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live from australia ross

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culvart what a week on fade to black

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matthew you're listening to jimmy church

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all right welcome back fade to black

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our meals jimmy church what a great week

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we've got on the show

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tonight lou elizondo and danny sheehan

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danny's going to be with us at the top

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of the hour

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i want to remind everybody what's going

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on this week it's absolutely amazing

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because tonight

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it's uh sheehan and elizondo tomorrow

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night grant cameron

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wednesday night debbie cobble and then

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thursday night ross

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culthart what a great week on the show

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tonight

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lou elizondo who is the former director

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alleged

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[Laughter]

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alleged former director of the advanced

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aerospace threat identification program

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otherwise known as atip

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as a senior counterintelligence officer

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for the department of defense he

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operated throughout afghanistan the

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middle east and latin america

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he's also a trained special agent who

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has led countless tactical and strategic

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missions both during wartime

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and times of peace his academic

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background includes microbiology

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immunology and parasiteology which i'm

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not even sure if that

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is a real classification we'll ask lou

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about that

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another time he's laughing with research

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experience in tropical diseases

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lewis is also an inventor who holds

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several patents

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i would like to welcome back to fade to

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black the one and only

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lou elizondo lu good evening young man

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how are you doing

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jimmy thank you very much i uh you know

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:23,580
i'm doing doing um

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[Laughter]

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[Music]

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00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,919
again you know i i hate to say uh you

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know i always say every day above ground

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is a good day but

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but but i mean it um you know we're not

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getting as i said before we're not

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getting

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uh any younger and uh you know things

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start to happen with your body when when

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you get to

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to to our age right weird things things

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that uh you know i i noticed for example

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i'm standing longer at the forgive me

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for saying this but i'm staying

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longer at the urinal and i don't know

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why i'm just

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just standing there and i don't know

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what i'm waiting for and then all of a

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sudden you know

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uh now all of a sudden i realized what

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the hell i was doing there so

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um you know with with age comes uh comes

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all these weird changes and the reason

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why i'm saying this in in all honesty i

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actually spent today at the hospital

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uh and um you know i'm trying to make a

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little bit funny light of

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of a very serious situation but i i i

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shared with you and i don't know if i

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shared with your audience i i lost my

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mother to cancer

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and uh it's always been kind of in the

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back of my mind

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um you know she she died from a large

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b-cell type lymphoma

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uh and it just completely ate her to

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pieces and she

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she went to the doctor too late and you

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know what uh i i'm just like my mom

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my whole family constantly tells me lou

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you know you gotta gotta go to the

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hospital you gotta get yourself checked

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00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:39,839
out you gotta get these

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annual checkups and you know i don't

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00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,000
ever really take it seriously and today

786
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,240
it was at one hell of a scare for me

787
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,160
uh fortunately the doctors here ran some

788
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:49,920
blood work very very quickly

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00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,880
uh and although i am not as healthy as i

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once was

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i i do not have the dreaded cancer or

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00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,240
any of the markers so

793
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,240
for anybody out there listening please

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00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:02,480
don't do what i do and just wait forever

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00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:02,880
to

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if you have even a family or anyone

797
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,160
friends that care about you

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00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,000
please listen to their advice and go get

799
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,200
yourself checked out

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00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,520
um go get your colonoscopies go get your

801
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,359
mammograms go get whatever

802
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,200
everything anything you think you need

803
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,200
to get because um

804
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:23,520
you know we we we don't uh we don't live

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00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,320
forever and

806
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,640
uh you know we we need we really need

807
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:28,320
everybody on board for as long as

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00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,440
possible on this train

809
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,839
in particular so uh please get yourself

810
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:32,960
checked out and don't

811
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:35,920
in this case don't be like lou um you

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00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,400
know

813
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,400
get yourself checked out routinely so

814
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,079
lou today's

815
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,440
hospital visit started at the urinal

816
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,280
and so what you're saying is you came

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00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,640
about actually i

818
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:49,040
started knowing things started like like

819
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like

820
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,520
over a couple of years ago right and if

821
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:53,040
you just kind of ignore you say oh it's

822
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:54,400
going to be age and you know i guess

823
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:55,680
this is what happens

824
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:58,640
uh and you know no that means there's

825
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,520
something wrong

826
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,079
no i i'm just picturing you running out

827
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:04,079
of the bathroom going jennifer

828
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,079
we got to go to the hospital

829
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:11,119
uh the visual is there lou the visual is

830
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,079
there

831
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:15,119
can i show you the visuals can i can i

832
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,079
say this uh

833
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:18,079
i i like the new look you look like

834
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,280
brian johnson

835
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of acdc and uh

836
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:25,760
it's uh it's it works for me

837
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,400
and and the new brian johnson look in

838
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,000
the urinal story

839
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,200
uh they kind of go together lou so uh

840
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:35,680
pretty cool well you know everybody

841
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,400
always tells me

842
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,920
i was wearing a black t-shirt and a

843
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:40,800
baseball cap so i actually used to wear

844
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,119
these type of hats uh and of course then

845
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,119
the the show comes out the on

846
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,800
i guess netflix the peaky blinder show

847
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:48,079
and everybody's like you know oh that's

848
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,200
a piggy blinders hat

849
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,280
well no actually it's not you know they

850
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:53,520
that that show made that made that hat

851
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,560
famous but

852
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,240
you know we've been wearing these hats

853
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:58,480
for for a long time to to cover these

854
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:01,680
ugly mops on top of our head now

855
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,720
lou um i'm gonna ask you a question

856
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,000
you know there's a lot of people that

857
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:07,760
are dialing in tonight

858
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:11,359
um after uh a week of crazy drama

859
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,320
do you do you pay attention to social

860
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,560
media

861
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:19,680
no uh you know i i pay attention to

862
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:22,800
to the individuals um who

863
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,680
have been pushing this topic forward um

864
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:27,359
i pay attention to them not necessarily

865
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,400
on social media

866
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:30,640
but whatever platform is available but

867
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,079
as far as social media

868
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,720
is concerned uh no unfortunately i

869
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,800
really don't have the luxury to to spend

870
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:37,760
a whole lot of time

871
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,480
uh in front of social media okay because

872
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:42,400
i talk a lot of smack about you i'm just

873
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,280
gonna let you know

874
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,200
i'm glad so you're not you're not

875
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,599
reading it this is what you're saying

876
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,280
you know no i read i will tell you i do

877
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,520
read my the tweets that that come to me

878
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,839
because i i think everybody you know

879
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,400
even even the critical voices deserve

880
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:58,240
deserve their their their time uh

881
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:01,119
in as on the witness stand so um you

882
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,720
know i don't i don't have

883
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:05,280
uh a lot of uh social media type

884
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,000
accounts

885
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,240
uh instagram and whatnot but i do have

886
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,400
twitter and i do check twitter because

887
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:12,079
twitter there's people there that are

888
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,839
honestly and sincerely reaching out to

889
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,839
me and asking me questions or

890
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,599
uh you know there might be a podcast

891
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,880
that someone's starting up

892
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:21,040
and no one has given that person the

893
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,160
time of day

894
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,760
and you know they'll say on a whim hey

895
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:25,200
lou will you you know will you be on my

896
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,400
podcast

897
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:28,160
sure why not you know i don't care if

898
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,119
you don't have any followers they're

899
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,040
like well i only have two followers

900
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,880
well you know well maybe we can get you

901
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:34,320
to three by the time we're done

902
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:37,200
um that's cool that's cool well um i'm

903
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:38,560
gonna throw you under the bus a little

904
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,960
bit

905
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:41,359
uh speaking about social media drama

906
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:42,320
because

907
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,440
uh last week um i'm just gonna let

908
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:46,400
everybody know that

909
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:50,640
lou and i uh do stay in constant contact

910
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,480
um and and i was a bit let down by lou

911
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,200
last week uh i call him up he picks up

912
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,800
the phone he says uh you know what's up

913
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:00,400
church and i said

914
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,240
23 minute uap video dude what's up

915
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,560
yeah and lou says yeah what about it i

916
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,480
said you didn't let me know

917
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,640
why am i the last i'm reading about this

918
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,079
on social media

919
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:14,800
i didn't hear about it from you so

920
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,200
that's

921
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,880
it i just took my crack at you right

922
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:19,040
here in front of everybody till i

923
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:22,720
that's how i speak to lou um but

924
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:26,000
you your retort your comeback was pretty

925
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:26,880
quick you said

926
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,550
okay so well let me let's i can make it

927
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:34,079
up to you tonight jimmy you know there's

928
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,880
there's a lot

929
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,480
going on and i think one of the burning

930
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,480
desires people have is you know well lou

931
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,240
what are you and chris and folks working

932
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,400
on now now that the report's out

933
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,040
you know where do we go from here um you

934
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,640
know i i've always said that

935
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,800
that report was simply a milestone uh it

936
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:50,480
was just uh

937
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,960
where we need to be

938
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,280
and i think now it more than ever is

939
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,040
probably the most exciting time that we

940
00:41:01,349 --> 00:41:00,720
could possibly be in and why is that

941
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:01,359
well

942
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:02,880
the government has now finally admitted

943
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:04,240
that uap is a real and that we're

944
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:05,920
looking into him that we're establishing

945
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:06,480
a

946
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,040
very first sentence of the very first

947
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,359
paragraph this is a preliminary report

948
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,520
this means this is the one of many so

949
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,880
you know congratulations

950
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,040
you know ufo twitter and everybody out

951
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,800
there in your audience you did it you

952
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,640
you you achieve what people said could

953
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,920
never be done and so

954
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,440
where do we go from here well we still

955
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:32,319
have some ig evaluations don't we under

956
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,920
uh that are ongoing and and

957
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:35,599
investigations won't that be interesting

958
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,319
to see

959
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:38,160
how that plays out right because that's

960
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,359
really gonna

961
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:40,960
going to be able to to provide some

962
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,800
leverage to to crack this topic even

963
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:43,680
more open

964
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:46,560
you have congress now calling for public

965
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,440
hearings

966
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,520
that's enormous i mean real public

967
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,880
hearings for everybody to

968
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,440
to to be part of and watch this right uh

969
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,680
now you also have uh you know a new

970
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,839
construct where the task force now

971
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,280
within hours of that report being

972
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,440
released you now have a strategic plan

973
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,440
coming from no other than the deputy

974
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,960
secretary of defense

975
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,000
saying we're going to come up with a

976
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,839
long-term capability or enduring

977
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:09,599
capability and strategic plan to fix

978
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,640
this

979
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,160
so what does that mean well i mean that

980
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:14,400
means nasa right nasa just came on board

981
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,880
and said

982
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,800
hey we think this is important right you

983
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,359
have now perhaps faa and dhs and

984
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:20,880
department of energy

985
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,720
so so this this is a huge

986
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,520
time of change for us and it's and it's

987
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,200
all good you now have

988
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,359
foreign countries coming out like never

989
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,040
before saying hey should we be taking

990
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,880
this topic seriously too

991
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,359
uh yeah you should and you know what

992
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,440
because if you don't you're

993
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,800
like like you just said you're gonna get

994
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,040
run over by the bus so

995
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:45,040
uh i think i think if people were to

996
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,160
take just a breath

997
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,040
uh or catch their breath maybe and and

998
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,640
and just kind of really look at what's

999
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,720
been accomplished the last three years

1000
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,480
i think the next three years if the last

1001
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:56,000
three years are telling at all of what

1002
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:57,040
we should expect

1003
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,400
i think the next three years are going

1004
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:00,720
to be absolute dynamite

1005
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,599
well what about okay okay that was a

1006
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:05,280
good dance though lou

1007
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:09,839
the 23-minute video have you seen it

1008
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:13,359
yes it's 23 minutes

1009
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,440
it is it is a very yes and it's

1010
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,480
um what i can say is that when

1011
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,359
when i was in the program uh as you say

1012
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,640
allegedly right as director

1013
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,160
if not you better go buy some lottery

1014
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,680
tickets because i i am the most

1015
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:31,280
clairvoyant individual in the world

1016
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,480
obviously if

1017
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:34,079
i had nothing to do with atip and i

1018
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:35,839
figured all this out uh

1019
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:40,000
but here i mean all seriousness um

1020
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,560
the video was extremely compelling one

1021
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,440
of many

1022
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,760
and uh to the point when i remember

1023
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,599
getting some expertise to look at it i

1024
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,520
did not say what it was

1025
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,440
i sent it out to some some highly

1026
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,119
trained experts

1027
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,400
in the uh i can say the isr community

1028
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,440
intelligence surveillance and

1029
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,599
reconnaissance community and when they

1030
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:01,760
came back to me the title of

1031
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:05,440
of the email was quote unquote that ufo

1032
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,400
video

1033
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,319
now i never told them they didn't have

1034
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,760
any idea

1035
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:12,079
what this 23 minute video was they had

1036
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:13,920
no idea what our office was

1037
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,280
actually doing at the time and uh

1038
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,280
for this little office of experts to

1039
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:21,280
come back and they titled the email back

1040
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:21,839
to me

1041
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:25,280
that ufo video uh you know it's pretty

1042
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:26,240
it's pretty telling

1043
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,160
uh what does what does the

1044
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,760
video look like is it grainy

1045
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:35,680
like the stuff that has already been

1046
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:37,760
leaked or is this something

1047
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:40,640
that is definitive no it's it's

1048
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,359
definitive

1049
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,960
and it's perplexing because every time

1050
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,200
you think you're like okay that's what

1051
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,280
i'm looking at all of a sudden bang

1052
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:50,079
it it changes um i can't go into any

1053
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:51,200
more than that

1054
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,480
um because that's fine fine

1055
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,119
but it it will i suspect at some point

1056
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:58,319
it's going to come out my hope is that

1057
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,520
it would come out during like some sort

1058
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,720
of public hearing that would not be

1059
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,599
grand right

1060
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,599
everybody can see it for themselves and

1061
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,960
there's other ones there's other ones

1062
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:06,560
too that are that are equally compelling

1063
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:06,800
and

1064
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,359
again let me re-emphasize jimmy it

1065
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:11,040
didn't stop with the omaha

1066
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,960
and and and the uss kid okay

1067
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:17,200
i've said this before this is occurring

1068
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,480
regularly

1069
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,640
and routinely just because you haven't

1070
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,280
seen it in the newspaper yet

1071
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:26,319
doesn't mean it's not occurring this

1072
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,680
is happening all the time around

1073
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,079
the world are you saying that this this

1074
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:33,520
23 minute video

1075
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,720
is recent what what year was it shot i

1076
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,319
i can't it's no it was a little while

1077
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:40,960
ago when i was still in a tip

1078
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:44,000
okay but but i can tell you that

1079
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:47,920
the the the frequency of of occurrences

1080
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:48,480
are

1081
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:54,079
that it's it's happening all the time

1082
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:55,440
and it's to the point now where there

1083
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,160
are

1084
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,520
dedicated spaces uh of of

1085
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,280
of analysts and i won't go into any more

1086
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,960
than that that are

1087
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,720
are trying to look at this problem and

1088
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:06,560
they're looking at this precisely as the

1089
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,599
way they should right

1090
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,560
applying all their expertise and and

1091
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:12,160
providing what they call

1092
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,760
er you have you have your assessments

1093
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,599
and you have a basically a counter

1094
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:17,920
assessment right or counter analysis

1095
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:20,800
uh that um is trying to you challenge

1096
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:21,839
the other analysts

1097
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,960
in essence so uh that's alternative

1098
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,480
analysis is what we call it

1099
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,480
um that's that's very important and you

1100
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:30,319
now have this dialogue occurring in the

1101
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:31,760
intelligence community

1102
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,200
that's never really happened before this

1103
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,960
topic when i was in a tip this was such

1104
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,400
a hush-hush effort

1105
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,800
that we you know we had to operate under

1106
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:40,720
under under extreme

1107
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,040
measures of secrecy and now people are

1108
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,280
having this conversation in the open so

1109
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:47,680
it's it's i think this is great i think

1110
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:48,400
we're

1111
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:51,760
what was that

1112
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:54,079
can you describe the shape of the craft

1113
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,880
in this video

1114
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,079
what did it look like jimmy you're very

1115
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:00,079
persistent and i can appreciate that

1116
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:05,520
um was it hackish was it tick tackish

1117
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:08,640
i really can't elaborate um

1118
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:12,319
on on okay just nod your head yes or no

1119
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,599
and then you don't have to say it out

1120
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:15,760
loud was it tick tackish

1121
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:19,119
it was not tic tac shape no it was and

1122
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:19,520
it was

1123
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,559
involving potentially multiple

1124
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,960
uh vehicles and i'll leave it at that

1125
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,319
okay um

1126
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:29,760
now the the previous uh videos

1127
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:33,599
that have been leaked um tended to be

1128
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,760
uh out over the ocean involving the navy

1129
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:39,839
um is this particular video

1130
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,400
of that genre where it was with the

1131
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,319
battle group or was it over

1132
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,800
land you know what i can't answer that

1133
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,760
but i think

1134
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:49,280
if if it comes out people will

1135
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:50,720
understand why i can't they're gonna go

1136
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,119
oh

1137
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:53,200
that's why he couldn't answer that i i

1138
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,640
can't i can't i can't

1139
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:57,359
elaborate on that at this time okay um

1140
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:57,680
uh

1141
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,640
gun camera footage or with a with a

1142
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:02,640
phone

1143
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:05,760
uh no an official uh

1144
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:09,440
us uh collection sensor

1145
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,520
oh man you are good you are good

1146
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,520
man i'm trying to thread that needle man

1147
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,079
look you honestly one wrong word man

1148
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,000
and and i'm gonna i'm gonna you're gonna

1149
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:21,920
see me in an orange jumpsuit so i i

1150
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,400
really don't like orange and if you've

1151
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:25,599
never i mean obviously you've never seen

1152
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,640
me wear orange right

1153
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,920
i don't particularly like wearing orange

1154
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:29,760
don't do it especially

1155
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,880
i i won't help you with that do you uh

1156
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:35,760
is this something that uh would you be

1157
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,200
surprised if it gets leaked

1158
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:42,480
uh you know i i i would be because it

1159
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:43,280
wasn't

1160
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,520
that has been

1161
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,760
you know shared with a whole bunch of

1162
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:51,440
other people and it was locked down

1163
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:52,480
pretty tight you know

1164
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,520
on our on our system so uh i would be i

1165
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,640
would be very surprised

1166
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,480
also frankly between you and your

1167
00:49:01,829 --> 00:49:00,319
audience and me i would discourage

1168
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,839
anybody from leaking it i know people

1169
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,440
say well that's only how we can get

1170
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,119
conversations going and how and how we

1171
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,800
know what we know today well

1172
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:09,200
you know maybe but there's also an

1173
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,319
argument against that

1174
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:13,200
and i i think you know i i think we've

1175
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,559
we've achieved

1176
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,240
more than we've ever dreamed of in three

1177
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,480
years without having to necessarily

1178
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,400
quote unquote leak classified

1179
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:22,240
information look if i i'll say this

1180
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,640
again

1181
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,720
and i've said it before if i have to

1182
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,400
choose between disclosure

1183
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,559
and compromising our national security

1184
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,319
or hurting our national security

1185
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,720
i am telling you i i will i will choose

1186
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:34,800
our national security over disclosure

1187
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,680
any time and twice on sunday i will not

1188
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:39,520
do that i will not compromise the safety

1189
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,640
of americans

1190
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:43,040
to to provide information and for

1191
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,319
disclosure but

1192
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,920
i i don't think we have to i don't think

1193
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:48,000
it isn't either or i think we can

1194
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,440
have both convert i think we can have

1195
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,720
our cake and eat it too i think we can

1196
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,559
have a conversation about this

1197
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,240
and provide information to the public

1198
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:56,480
without necessarily compromising sources

1199
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,280
of methods

1200
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,040
and this is why it's taken us maybe a

1201
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,880
little longer but why chris and i and

1202
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,800
then others are so dedicated

1203
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:05,040
to this topic the way we are because

1204
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,839
it's important

1205
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,599
folks like eric davis and hal put off et

1206
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,760
cetera you know we we want to do this

1207
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,720
the right way

1208
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,960
and we're you know at the end of the day

1209
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:14,800
you know we we are patriots we we love

1210
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,440
our country

1211
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,119
we you know we love our our fellow

1212
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,040
citizens and you know we want to do

1213
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,280
right by them um so

1214
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,520
yeah and and fair enough and this is a

1215
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:24,880
question you can't answer

1216
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,200
uh which is this you know with the go

1217
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:28,800
fast and the gimbal and the

1218
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:31,920
in the tic tac limited data there

1219
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,480
the videos were very very short

1220
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,240
including 2019

1221
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:38,319
and and the ro you know all of that was

1222
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,680
a a very short duration of video i wish

1223
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,599
everybody wishes they were longer but

1224
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,680
now we're talking about 23 minutes

1225
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,000
that's a lot of data there that's a lot

1226
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:49,520
of information

1227
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:53,599
yeah yeah absolutely it is

1228
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,079
is i mean it's it's you know that's

1229
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,920
that's a whole lot of time

1230
00:51:01,109 --> 00:51:00,079
to say gee whiz what the heck is that

1231
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,119
right and

1232
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:04,079
and have other uh sensors to to to

1233
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,200
utilize to

1234
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:07,599
to validate and verify what what you're

1235
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,240
seeing

1236
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,800
yeah that's a very good point before we

1237
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,520
move on

1238
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,319
what was the speed was it was it

1239
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,240
something that was extraordinary beyond

1240
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,240
our own capabilities

1241
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,640
um enough to to make us raise our

1242
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,400
eyebrows and say whoa

1243
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,040
any erratic movements any any excessive

1244
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:26,800
g-forces

1245
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:30,160
um gosh

1246
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,839
jimmy you're asking me some some really

1247
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,079
good and try i want to answer this

1248
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,559
but i i don't know if i can um i just

1249
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:37,839
watched i just watched

1250
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,200
lou go like this everybody yeah

1251
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:43,680
like kill your peculiar peculiar

1252
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,480
movement yes

1253
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,960
for sure really really and and movement

1254
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:48,559
that we wouldn't really

1255
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,040
uh uh uh understand um

1256
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,680
patterns that we don't yeah that's all

1257
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:56,960
you say i can't go to more than that

1258
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,520
that's it

1259
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:59,040
okay all right all right one last

1260
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:00,720
question then we'll move on was the

1261
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,000
was the craft big enough for maybe a

1262
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,160
pilot or do you think it was just under

1263
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,240
intelligent control

1264
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,280
well i'm not sure it was even one craft

1265
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,280
that's that's that's part of the mystery

1266
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:15,119
here it appears that maybe there were

1267
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,880
several craft involved and that's what

1268
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,359
what's so interesting

1269
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:21,760
well yeah but big enough for somebody or

1270
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:22,559
or uh

1271
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,760
remotely controlled no if you're going

1272
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,559
to make it

1273
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,400
certainly big enough for you know from

1274
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,400
our context certainly big enough that

1275
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,520
that uh you know but a human being or

1276
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,960
several human beings could could

1277
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:37,119
could probably fit inside i i can't wait

1278
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,079
for this to leak

1279
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,480
i've got to see this like all right uh

1280
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,559
now uh moving on uh we've only got a

1281
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:44,160
little bit of time left with you lou and

1282
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,359
again thank you

1283
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:48,240
um yeah oh really quick there's also

1284
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:49,520
been a lot of chatter

1285
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,040
um out there about some statements or

1286
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:54,960
alluding to

1287
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,280
um our government uh and branches

1288
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,880
of the government uh being in possession

1289
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:04,000
of

1290
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,359
and

1291
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,440
this this chatter's been going on out

1292
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,599
there and if you were gonna venture to

1293
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:13,680
guess if you were a betting man

1294
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:16,960
is our government in possession of

1295
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,520
stuff that was not made here on earth

1296
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:24,480
so we need to define when you say is our

1297
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:25,599
government

1298
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,079
meaning only those

1299
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,000
specific officials designated as

1300
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:33,599
government officials or are you also

1301
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:34,640
including

1302
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,960
contractors and any organizations that

1303
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:38,800
are affiliated with the united states

1304
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:39,280
government

1305
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:42,079
yes the answer is yes all of the above

1306
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:43,280
we have to include that

1307
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:46,400
and it's very simple for a private

1308
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:47,040
company

1309
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,160
to be doing this research and then

1310
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:53,040
it doesn't fall under foia and and

1311
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,079
secrecy

1312
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,480
and and darkness can prevail i i get

1313
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:57,920
that so

1314
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,160
all of the above um

1315
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:04,559
i i will say and i will reiterate what i

1316
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:05,839
said before

1317
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:09,040
uh it is my belief that uh we

1318
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:12,559
are in possession of some very exotic

1319
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:13,440
material

1320
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:17,680
um i i cannot for very specific reasons

1321
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:19,839
elaborate any further than that

1322
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:22,559
um you brought up eric davis earlier and

1323
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,200
i want to

1324
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,839
circle back to this eric did make a very

1325
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,079
profound statement that was

1326
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,480
quoted in the new york times by leslie

1327
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:32,480
kane and ralph blumenthal

1328
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,160
and that very short quote

1329
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,880
is a big one in which he said that he

1330
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,680
had briefed

1331
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,160
the united states senate and told them

1332
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:43,680
that we are in possession

1333
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,520
of craft uh not of this earth

1334
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,200
he said craft he didn't say parts he

1335
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:50,880
didn't say pieces he didn't say meta

1336
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:51,680
materials he

1337
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:55,359
literally said flying saucers

1338
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,640
where where would he get this

1339
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,720
information from well look

1340
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:01,760
eric's a a very good man uh eric is

1341
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:05,040
is is a is a a you know people get tired

1342
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:06,400
of me saying this but i can say it

1343
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,359
because i i know eric

1344
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,920
he's he's a hero for this country he's

1345
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,520
done things for this country that

1346
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:12,960
that most people will never even learn

1347
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,200
about until probably after he's dead

1348
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,920
um he's he's an amazing human being

1349
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:18,880
incredibly smart

1350
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,240
and had some very significant access if

1351
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:25,200
dr eric davis tells you something then

1352
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:25,599
he's

1353
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,079
ever met dr davis

1354
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,920
you'll realize he has an interesting

1355
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,079
little personality

1356
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,520
uh characteristic that that oh prevents

1357
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:38,799
him from flying he just

1358
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:41,440
he he's um he's one of these super uber

1359
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:42,400
smart people

1360
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:45,760
uh you know almost uh almost savant

1361
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:49,359
he is he is that that intelligent

1362
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:52,160
um and you know for a guy like that he

1363
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,559
you know

1364
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,720
he doesn't even he wouldn't even

1365
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:56,160
understand a reason why to lie there's

1366
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,200
no reason to lie

1367
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,799
um so he doesn't even waste his energy

1368
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,280
even trying to to spend time doing that

1369
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,440
uh you know he operates in a completely

1370
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:04,880
different level this guy

1371
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,799
you know thinks in terms of binary you

1372
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,079
know ones and zeros

1373
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,799
uh um you know where we get computers to

1374
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:12,240
do the work for us he just kind of does

1375
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:13,359
it in his head

1376
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,400
that's the kind of guy dr davis is

1377
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:16,799
davis's so

1378
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,760
you know i i have trusted him implicitly

1379
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:21,599
and i've known over time

1380
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,200
based upon my own personal experience

1381
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:25,200
that when he says something

1382
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,480
there is evidence to support his

1383
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:31,280
his his observations and his conclusions

1384
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,000
and i will

1385
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,280
i will leave that um there

1386
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,480
did you ever discuss this with him

1387
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:41,359
i can't go into that unfortunately okay

1388
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,640
the answer is yes

1389
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:45,359
everybody i i don't need to know what

1390
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:46,640
the conversation

1391
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,160
was about but he

1392
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,880
in in making this kind of statement the

1393
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,079
new york times that's

1394
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,839
i spoke to ralph blumenthal about this

1395
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,280
specifically

1396
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:59,680
is going to vet uh you know they're not

1397
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,640
going to put that

1398
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:02,640
in whether it's buried at the bottom of

1399
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:05,440
the article or at the top of the article

1400
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:07,359
they are going to vet that source

1401
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:08,640
because it's a direct

1402
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,000
quote and you can't go there unless they

1403
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:14,799
did the due diligence and it was an i it

1404
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:15,280
was

1405
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:19,920
one that i think that

1406
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,640
uh i know that ross coulthard certainly

1407
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:24,160
has been interested in that quote but

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00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,440
other journalists

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00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:27,200
just kind of let that go and it was a

1410
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:28,880
very profound statement

1411
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:31,920
lou it was just extraordinary so um

1412
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,280
listen i want to thank you for coming on

1413
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:35,359
the show tonight this saturday we're

1414
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:36,480
going to circle back

1415
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:39,200
and you're going to join me yeah for our

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00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,000
live event

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00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,599
the forbidden disclosure conference uh

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00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:45,599
this july 17th

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00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:49,119
and uh you excited i am very excited

1420
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:51,359
um you know i i love to have an

1421
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:52,400
opportunity to have different

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00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:53,760
perspectives

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00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,079
i i never run from opportunities like

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00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,920
that to share different experiences and

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00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,200
different perspectives

1426
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:01,119
um you know i've had an opportunity to

1427
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:03,119
to talk to nick pope and linda muldenhau

1428
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,960
and and others and and even though we

1429
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,720
may not necessarily agree

1430
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,480
on a lot of things there are things that

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00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:10,720
we do agree and and that's transparency

1432
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,520
and disclosure

1433
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,520
and so i think it's it's going to be i

1434
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,960
think you can never have too many

1435
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:16,960
different perspectives by the way before

1436
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,559
i forget here if you want a real

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00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,319
you want a real gas you want to have

1438
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:23,200
some fun here tonight with danny sheehan

1439
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:26,400
asked danny sheehan about uh about about

1440
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:30,160
an individual who who um we know because

1441
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:34,079
the conversation he was privy to where

1442
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:36,160
they said this was back a couple months

1443
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,200
ago they said uh

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00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,480
lou we we we have no problem we know you

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00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:41,920
ran the program

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00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:45,119
um you know what we have problems with

1447
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,559
some of these other things

1448
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:48,160
uh involving this is when they were

1449
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,839
coming after my security clearance

1450
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,200
they were they were trying to use the

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00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,960
television show and identified against

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00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,680
me and

1453
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:55,760
of course obviously didn't break my

1454
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,440
security oath in that show

1455
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,040
but during one of the uh the

1456
00:59:01,190 --> 00:59:00,799
investigators had told me they said look

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00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,200
you know

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00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:03,680
uh we we know you ran a tip that's

1459
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:05,920
that's not even in question anymore

1460
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:09,280
um danny was made aware of that he he

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00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,720
he he heard that comment himself so uh

1462
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,640
you know you can if you ever want to get

1463
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:16,319
some additional information on that i'm

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00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,799
sure

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00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,400
you know danny as my lawyer will be more

1466
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:19,920
than happy to

1467
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,680
to provide some of that but i don't

1468
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:23,359
think there's any at this point that you

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00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:23,680
know

1470
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:26,880
dod doesn't call you in uh for

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00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,760
to talk to somebody unless you've you've

1472
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:31,280
served in a position before

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00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,839
and i just thought i'd let you know yeah

1474
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:36,000
and uh he's up with us next and i will

1475
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,599
definitely jump in there

1476
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,760
i want everybody to know that this this

1477
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:41,119
conference that we're doing this

1478
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:42,160
saturday

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00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:45,359
this is uh truly going to be the event

1480
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,000
of the year to

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00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,359
have uh these individuals

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00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,520
all together in one place at one time

1483
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,040
but what lou

1484
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:56,319
asked of me he said jimmy can can you

1485
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:56,720
and i

1486
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:59,359
just sit and talk for two hours and

1487
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,640
absolutely

1488
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:03,119
let's go there and i said i will i said

1489
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:04,640
that's a great idea so that's

1490
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:07,839
what we've agreed to do and if i can

1491
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,559
make uh

1492
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:11,520
lulu elizondo squirm a little bit and

1493
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:12,880
reveal something and

1494
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:15,440
and get him to risk everything i'm gonna

1495
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:16,880
do it this saturday

1496
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:20,079
hey hey lou thank you so much my friend

1497
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,480
and

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01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:22,160
we'll see you on saturday we'll talk

1499
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,520
before then but uh

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01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:25,280
we'll see you saturday for the forbidden

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01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:27,040
conference thank you so much

1502
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,640
jimmy thanks for everything take care

1503
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:30,160
and a big thank you to your audience as

1504
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,960
well can't wait

1505
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:32,559
i can't wait to see you this summer on

1506
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,319
tour with acdc

1507
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:39,040
yeah i'm a roadie lou elizondo thank you

1508
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:40,640
so much my friend

1509
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,680
take care sir thank you lou elizondo

1510
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:45,760
coming up next this is fade to black

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01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,720
coming up next

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01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:49,040
danny sheehan is joining us right after

1513
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,240
the break

1514
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,920
and uh this is fade to black i'm yours

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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the planet stay with us we'll be right

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welcome back fade to black i am your

1642
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:33,599
host jimmy church what a great week on

1643
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:35,280
the show i want to thank lou elizondo

1644
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,280
for coming in

1645
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:39,760
up next we have uh danny sheehan with us

1646
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,799
and of course

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01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,280
danny jd is a graduate of harvard law

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school former director of the christic

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01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:46,000
institute

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01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,839
and is a professor of world politics at

1651
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,680
the university of california he is also

1652
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,359
the general counsel and co-director for

1653
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:53,839
the institute of cooperation and space

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he has a long and distinguished history

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as a public interest council and was

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legal counsel in the pentagon papers

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case

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the iran contra three mile island karen

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silkwood

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and many other high profile cases he

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currently represents lou elizondo

1662
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,720
we've got a lot to talk about tonight

1663
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,480
with uh danny sheen and i would like to

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01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:16,480
welcome back to fade to black daniel pc

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and

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danny how are you tonight young man i'm

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i'm great jimmy

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i'm great you look great that's all that

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matters that's all that matters danny

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that's all that matters and uh a couple

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of things i know that you

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uh were just listening uh to lou and

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we'll get to

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01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,599
want to

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start off with this uh do you pay

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attention to the soap opera

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that is social media actually no

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no i've i've never there our office our

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office

1680
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:49,760
is on twitter and facebook and other

1681
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:50,799
things

1682
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:53,440
but uh myself i i've never i've never

1683
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:54,240
been on them

1684
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,430
we used to say back in washington dc

1685
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:00,799
when we were doing like the

1686
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,520
the iran conference case or the okay we

1687
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:05,280
we never have quite time to listen to

1688
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:06,720
all that kind of stuff because we're

1689
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,680
doing the stuff

1690
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,640
they're talking about that's right you

1691
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:12,000
know what and you're going to live a

1692
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,440
long life

1693
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:16,080
you don't have to you don't have to get

1694
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:17,679
involved with all of that well

1695
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:21,600
moving on um uh we've got a lot to

1696
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:24,799
discuss tonight and uh i i kind of want

1697
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:26,239
to start here

1698
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,960
um with everything that is going on

1699
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,480
right now with the ig

1700
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:33,359
and the department of defense and and

1701
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:35,440
representing lou elizondo

1702
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,799
do you have an update uh on behalf of

1703
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,520
the ig

1704
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,440
and and where this investigation is

1705
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,120
headed

1706
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:45,679
sure uh when you were talking with lou

1707
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:46,960
he had mentioned that

1708
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:49,520
you know the we've been we've been

1709
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,080
meeting

1710
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,279
with three already three uh

1711
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:56,080
specific uh subdivisions of the

1712
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:57,520
inspector general's office in the

1713
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,880
defense department

1714
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:00,640
uh we've been meeting with of course the

1715
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:02,960
whistleblower retaliation group

1716
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,000
because uh the instantaneous response

1717
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:08,000
of the inspector general's office to the

1718
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:09,600
filing of our complaint

1719
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:13,040
uh on may 3rd uh was oh well this sounds

1720
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:14,319
like a whistleblower

1721
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,000
uh is being retaliated against here

1722
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:20,080
and then there was this other group it

1723
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,040
was called

1724
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,759
space intelligence and engineering

1725
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:24,960
oversight

1726
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:27,279
uh there was another one that was uh

1727
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:28,239
space

1728
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:31,440
uh missiles and nuclear uh

1729
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,560
evaluation and oversight uh and then

1730
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,719
and now the the same day that we filed

1731
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,920
we filed this

1732
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:39,520
complaint uh right in the first thing in

1733
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:40,719
the morning at nine o'clock in the

1734
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,279
morning

1735
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:44,239
on may third and later on that day there

1736
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:45,520
was an official

1737
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,920
uh memorandum issued a public press

1738
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:49,359
release from the inspector general's

1739
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,080
office

1740
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:52,560
saying that oh we have decided today

1741
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:53,679
coincidentally

1742
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:56,800
to start a major broad investigation and

1743
01:10:00,630 --> 01:10:00,080
evaluation to determine exactly what

1744
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,640
steps

1745
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,400
the defense department or any of its

1746
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:04,000
agencies have taken

1747
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:08,480
with regard to the uap issue or the ufos

1748
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:11,600
now that's a very broad ranging

1749
01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,199
evaluation and they also said in that in

1750
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:17,199
that press release

1751
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:18,800
they said that they are going to

1752
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:21,760
consider expanding their investigation

1753
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,640
in the scope of it as it proceeds and

1754
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,080
they will actually

1755
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,920
consider expanding the number of

1756
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,440
government agencies

1757
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:31,199
uh within the defense department that

1758
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,199
they're going to be evaluating

1759
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,440
so so we were we were happy to hear that

1760
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,120
there was a fellow the name of

1761
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:39,520
randolph strong was the fellow who's the

1762
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:40,800
head of that uh

1763
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:43,600
that division inside the inspector

1764
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,000
general's

1765
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,320
office so when we met with them in

1766
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,840
washington dc

1767
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,440
right down the street from the pentagon

1768
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:51,679
in the great big new defense department

1769
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:52,400
building

1770
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:57,199
raised the issue with them about you

1771
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,320
know wouldn't it be

1772
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,239
more advantageous to have all of the

1773
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:02,400
subdivisions of the inspector general's

1774
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:03,120
office

1775
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,600
rather than each looking for out of

1776
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:06,960
their little stove pipe

1777
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:10,080
you know at uh lou's general complaint

1778
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,600
that they would all get together and

1779
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:13,840
form sort of a large task force

1780
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:16,000
uh and really come to grips with all the

1781
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:17,440
implications of this

1782
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,320
uh and they have done that now uh they

1783
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,320
have done that it is quite rare for that

1784
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,400
to go on inside the defense department

1785
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,560
now they're quite bureaucratic in the

1786
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,080
way they function

1787
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:29,760
but we've said that this is such a

1788
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,760
profoundly important issue

1789
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,920
uh and the american public is so

1790
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,120
interested

1791
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:36,960
in this thing it's been going on for

1792
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,880
decades now

1793
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:41,440
that what we wanted to do is have a a

1794
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:43,040
collective group of people

1795
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,440
that we could sit down at the table with

1796
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,000
uh and have them around the table

1797
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:49,840
uh there isn't any question i mean they

1798
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:51,760
they they all know and there's lou

1799
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,480
pointed out

1800
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:54,400
they they acknowledge right flat out

1801
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:55,520
that there was absolutely

1802
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:58,159
no debate about the fact that lou was

1803
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:59,679
the director of the

1804
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,960
the advanced aerospace sort of

1805
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:03,040
identification program that was just

1806
01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:03,679
silly

1807
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,679
you know any any assertions on the part

1808
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:07,440
of personnel from the defense department

1809
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,320
that lou

1810
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:10,080
wasn't the director of the project or

1811
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,920
that there was no project that was

1812
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:13,600
investigating ufos

1813
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,520
or they didn't know what their anybody's

1814
01:12:18,390 --> 01:12:16,960
talking about you know

1815
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,400
they just said look at let's let's get

1816
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,640
all that behind us right away okay

1817
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:22,400
let's just brush that off the table

1818
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:23,760
everybody who's here

1819
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,239
knows that you ran the program uh so

1820
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,000
let's talk about this right

1821
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,960
uh and so we had a whole range of of

1822
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:32,480
issues that were raised

1823
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,679
and what uh what i was doing i said as

1824
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:36,880
lou's council

1825
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:40,080
uh because you may they know i mean lou

1826
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,520
when lou retained me

1827
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:44,159
lou knew that i was the legal counsel

1828
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:45,760
for the disclosure project

1829
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:48,000
uh he knew that i was legal counsel for

1830
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,120
dr john mack

1831
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,960
at harvard university when we went

1832
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,640
through an 18-month

1833
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,880
ordeal with the faculty and

1834
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,360
administration at harvard university

1835
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:59,520
over them getting their nose out of

1836
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:00,480
joints uh

1837
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:04,080
over the fact that uh

1838
01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:05,840
can you ask everybody that's eating

1839
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:07,910
dinner in the background to hold it down

1840
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,120
[Laughter]

1841
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:14,239
it's really loud okay go ahead continue

1842
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:18,159
john mack okay so so the so that uh

1843
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,000
that lou knew this when lou retained me

1844
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,760
uh and he knew that i was legal counsel

1845
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:25,040
for the citizens

1846
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:26,719
uh hearings the published hearings that

1847
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,560
we had with uh congresswoman and

1848
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:30,000
senators and things

1849
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,760
uh our former congressman former

1850
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:33,520
senators so that

1851
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,920
the but the bottom line is is that when

1852
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:36,880
i came to

1853
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:39,920
the pentagon with lou as his counsel

1854
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,880
sitting at his side uh during these

1855
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:44,239
these discussions

1856
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:47,440
uh that we we were we were there to

1857
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:48,400
basically

1858
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:51,520
assist the inspector general's office in

1859
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,400
doing what

1860
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,480
there was what was their constitutional

1861
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,480
duty and you could tell that

1862
01:13:59,669 --> 01:13:58,480
uh they weren't used to this you know

1863
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:59,679
they were used to dealing with

1864
01:14:01,910 --> 01:14:00,080
everything

1865
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:01,920
in these little compartmentalized stove

1866
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:03,199
pipes uh

1867
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,960
and when we were saying look at this is

1868
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:06,800
such a seriously profound issue that

1869
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:07,679
we've got to become

1870
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:09,679
serious about all this together we need

1871
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,679
to work at getting at

1872
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:12,960
what's been done by the defense

1873
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,800
department what do they know about this

1874
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,480
who is it that knows about it

1875
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,320
why is it that there are so many

1876
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:20,400
high-ranking military officials

1877
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:22,000
who don't know anything about this who

1878
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:23,600
are not briefed in uh

1879
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,960
and they're they're becoming totally

1880
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:26,960
frustrated

1881
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:29,679
we need to figure out a protocol for for

1882
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:30,800
getting this information

1883
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:33,440
gathered together in in a coordinated

1884
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,080
way

1885
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:36,480
and meaningful and honest evaluations

1886
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:37,199
being done

1887
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:40,000
so that in a very short period of time

1888
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:41,920
in these meetings that we were having

1889
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:42,239
that

1890
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:45,120
it became extremely cordial uh and it

1891
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:47,040
was perfectly clear that we were all

1892
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:48,560
sort of on the same

1893
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:51,360
wavelength here and they clearly were

1894
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:53,040
looking to lou

1895
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,840
to share with them the information that

1896
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:56,880
he had gotten

1897
01:15:01,270 --> 01:15:00,400
as the director uh of the of the entire

1898
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:01,280
project

1899
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,960
uh the end that that's what he was doing

1900
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,120
he was sharing with them the information

1901
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:09,520
because they had not been briefed in on

1902
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:10,320
any of it

1903
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:13,840
now help me help me uh

1904
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:17,199
i want to be the fly on the wall here um

1905
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:20,880
danny is uap

1906
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:24,400
ufo you know a little green men

1907
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:26,159
is this kind of stuff being discussed

1908
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:27,440
out in the open

1909
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,280
or is it is is it in references

1910
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,320
that are almost a third person

1911
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:35,600
you know we've got to get this

1912
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:37,760
information out we've got to look at you

1913
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:38,000
know

1914
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:41,600
instead of our is there direct reference

1915
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,640
to uaps and ufos well

1916
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,560
yeah but so you need to be careful here

1917
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:47,679
because you threw in

1918
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,199
little green men well you got to be

1919
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,480
careful here right

1920
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,640
there's a there's we're going at this

1921
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,239
thing very carefully

1922
01:15:59,709 --> 01:15:59,040
uh the the fact of the matter is that

1923
01:16:02,550 --> 01:15:59,719
these

1924
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:02,560
unidentified uh aerial phenomenon that

1925
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:04,000
they refer to them as

1926
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,360
everybody in the room knows what we're

1927
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:07,280
talking about ufos

1928
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:10,400
okay because ufos uh moved from becoming

1929
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:11,120
a

1930
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:36,320
these men

1931
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:39,520
about look at we know we know that there

1932
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:41,520
are vehicles and this is what lou is

1933
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,320
saying to them

1934
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:45,360
we know that there are vehicles flying

1935
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:48,239
uh in our airspace around the world on

1936
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:49,120
our planet

1937
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,400
they're going like 43 000 miles an hour

1938
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:54,080
right within our atmosphere now this

1939
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:56,800
would burn any vehicle we've ever seen

1940
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:59,199
to a crisp you know here and that's why

1941
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,239
the like with the

1942
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:02,400
with the challengers coming in from uh

1943
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:03,840
going out to the

1944
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,920
to the moon or going in orbit coming

1945
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:07,679
back into our atmosphere

1946
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:09,120
you know they have to have these

1947
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:11,280
gigantic heat panels on them

1948
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:13,840
uh and they they have to slow down to

1949
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,840
really slower speeds in order to not get

1950
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,440
burnt to a crisp

1951
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:19,920
they hear these vehicles flying at 43

1952
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:21,600
000 miles an hour at least

1953
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:23,679
inside our atmosphere they're coming

1954
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:24,640
from 80

1955
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:28,080
000 feet above the earth down to within

1956
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,640
50 feet of the surface of the oceans

1957
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,960
and stopping on a dime that would

1958
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:34,800
generate up to 600

1959
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:38,239
g's it would tear any vehicle that we've

1960
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:39,120
ever heard of

1961
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:41,600
completely asunder and then they're

1962
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,000
going underwater and traveling over 200

1963
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:47,280
miles an hour under the water now and

1964
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,440
that we've discussed all of this stuff

1965
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:51,120
that these are the things that lou

1966
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,760
was able to discover in the period that

1967
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:55,920
he was running this major investigation

1968
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:58,880
inside the the pentagon so he was

1969
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,280
briefing the people inside the defense

1970
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,159
department

1971
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:04,239
to get to make it clear to them look how

1972
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,159
serious this issue is here

1973
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,400
and for for the people inside the

1974
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:09,760
defense department be saying

1975
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,960
look nobody is working on this nobody's

1976
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:14,159
understanding this

1977
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,480
uh these things are flying around and

1978
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:18,239
nobody's really paying much attention to

1979
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,719
them

1980
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,320
everybody knows that it's crazy it's

1981
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:21,760
just swamp gas

1982
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,000
you know it's it's uh lighthouse lights

1983
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:25,520
reflecting off clouds

1984
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:27,679
or people are mistaking flocks of birds

1985
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:28,640
i mean look at

1986
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:30,800
the the guy that does cosmos this uh

1987
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,040
richard degrassio whatever his name is

1988
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:35,920
neil degrasse tyson yeah that's right he

1989
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:37,040
he was he was

1990
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:43,679
with uh what's his name fareed zakaria

1991
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:45,520
right and then they were covering they

1992
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:46,960
were covering uh

1993
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:49,600
the virgin uh everything's going up into

1994
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:51,199
the sky right with richard

1995
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:54,320
uh branson yeah branson and they were

1996
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,360
all covering in

1997
01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:58,640
in uh and uh what's what's the

1998
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:01,280
uh fareed zakaria said to him he had him

1999
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,400
on the show and he says

2000
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:04,000
what about all these sightings of the

2001
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:05,520
ufos uh

2002
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:07,360
and their pentagon is recognizing

2003
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:08,719
they're real what do you think about

2004
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:09,280
that

2005
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:12,640
he had the temerity to say well i really

2006
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:13,280
think

2007
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,480
the equipment

2008
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,480
the detection equipment that's what he

2009
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,880
said he is so locked in to be

2010
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:23,280
to refusing to acknowledge the realities

2011
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,159
of things i mean

2012
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,320
we've got photographs of these things

2013
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,000
less than 100 feet away

2014
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:30,239
i mean we've got close the guy the guys

2015
01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:31,600
in the that are flying these

2016
01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:33,840
these f-18 hornets they started taking

2017
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:35,360
their cameras with them and taking

2018
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,000
photographs

2019
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,480
of these things out the window of their

2020
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:39,760
of their cockpits

2021
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,840
i mean these and it's every single day

2022
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:43,440
they're they're seeing these things

2023
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,840
uh so this is preposterous still for

2024
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:47,360
people to be taking this ridiculous

2025
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,400
position

2026
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,640
and so the fact is that the guys that

2027
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:52,159
were in that were in the inspector

2028
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:53,120
general's office

2029
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:54,719
that are supposed to be conducting an

2030
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:57,120
evaluation of this whole subject

2031
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:00,800
didn't even know didn't even know

2032
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:03,520
most of the public information that was

2033
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:05,120
already being released about this

2034
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:05,840
because they

2035
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:08,159
they they wanted to approach the subject

2036
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:09,440
pristine they didn't want to be

2037
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:10,159
prejudiced

2038
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,679
you know so they want to so they had to

2039
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,679
have lou start briefing them

2040
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,760
like right from the very beginning so it

2041
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:17,280
was it's quite an extraordinary

2042
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,000
experience to

2043
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,239
see you know these colonels from the air

2044
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:21,840
force and these dod

2045
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,920
guys all sitting around this big table

2046
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:25,280
and here's lou

2047
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:27,920
you know uh delivering a seminar to

2048
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:30,080
these guys about what the information is

2049
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:31,600
that he already knows

2050
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,040
about these things uh and so that

2051
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,360
you could tell that these men these

2052
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:39,840
these were basically honest guys

2053
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,159
and they started out with this extremely

2054
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,239
narrow perspective on what it is each of

2055
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:46,080
them was supposed to be doing they

2056
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:47,199
wanted to remain

2057
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:50,480
inside these stove pipes where they were

2058
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:53,760
but but randolph stone uh brought

2059
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:55,679
a strong randolph strong brought them

2060
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:56,960
together

2061
01:21:01,990 --> 01:21:00,960
they couldn't use the stovepipe defense

2062
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,000
anymore

2063
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,920
they had to come to grips with this as a

2064
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:05,440
collective group

2065
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:07,120
uh and so they were all there at the

2066
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:09,280
same time and lou is briefing them on

2067
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:10,719
what's going on

2068
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:13,920
so now each of them knows that the other

2069
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:16,000
people at the table know as well

2070
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:18,480
everything that they know and so that

2071
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,120
we're

2072
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,560
sitting there sitting there giving them

2073
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:23,040
more sources more people they can go to

2074
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,639
the where they can get the documents on

2075
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,639
thing for example lou said to them

2076
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,239
and this isn't talking out of school you

2077
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:30,000
know that the defense department

2078
01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:31,920
when people had filed freedom of

2079
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:33,679
information act demands to get

2080
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,560
information

2081
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,639
to try to counter their some of their

2082
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:38,320
public statements that lou

2083
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:39,920
didn't have anything to do with this

2084
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:42,560
program there wasn't any secret program

2085
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,639
people filed freedom of information act

2086
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:46,159
demands to see if they could get some of

2087
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:47,440
the records and they said

2088
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:50,000
oh uh the stuff that louisando was

2089
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:51,840
working on was so insignificant that

2090
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:54,320
we've destroyed all of their records

2091
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,679
you know and and we lose anybody anybody

2092
01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:58,800
who believes

2093
01:22:02,629 --> 01:22:01,120
that they've destroyed the records of

2094
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:02,639
the entire thing from the advanced

2095
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,440
aerospace

2096
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,280
threat identification has got to have

2097
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,800
his head examined

2098
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:08,880
so don't take that don't listen to them

2099
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:10,719
from inside the if anybody tries to tell

2100
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:13,040
you they've destroyed all of our records

2101
01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:15,199
we'll provide you copies if you'd like

2102
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,239
them yeah and

2103
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:19,280
and what what's the movement on that

2104
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:22,560
end with uh his uh his

2105
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:25,040
missing emails and no backup to the

2106
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,600
email

2107
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:28,000
uh any response from the ig about that

2108
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,440
issue no we're

2109
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:31,199
we're we're supposed to come and have

2110
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:32,880
another set of meetings with them within

2111
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:34,480
like 30 days

2112
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,800
okay so that we've we've laid out a

2113
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,320
whole bunch of stuff

2114
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,320
so that they can follow up on it and get

2115
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:42,080
the documentation we've given them the

2116
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:42,880
names of

2117
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,280
witnesses we've given them phone numbers

2118
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,600
we've given all that stuff to them

2119
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,639
and they're saying that they're going to

2120
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,639
have us come back to washington you know

2121
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,159
within 30 days or so

2122
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:54,400
to sit down for a second round you know

2123
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,679
and we're going to keep on going that

2124
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:56,960
what we're trying to do is

2125
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,920
is have this collective investigation

2126
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,440
that's going to be going on

2127
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:03,760
uh to try to enlist the support of the

2128
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:05,520
inspector general's office

2129
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,800
in in calling to task some of these

2130
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:10,639
people inside the defense department

2131
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:11,679
that have been

2132
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:13,280
saying things that aren't true you know

2133
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,719
basically it appears that some of the

2134
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:16,800
people inside the defense department

2135
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:19,280
didn't get the memo somehow that they're

2136
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:20,960
not supposed to keep on

2137
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,440
this complete line you know

2138
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,520
that they've been going on for decades

2139
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:27,760
and they've all uh sort of drunk the

2140
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:29,280
kool-aid that they're afraid to say

2141
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:31,040
anything about it nobody can talk about

2142
01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:31,520
it

2143
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,199
you know and the thing that's so bizarre

2144
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,199
about it is to have the united states

2145
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:36,719
defense department

2146
01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:39,840
so intimidated that they can't even

2147
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:42,719
you know a a two-star general uh can't

2148
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,280
even

2149
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,679
ask anybody about the subject you know

2150
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:47,760
they get they they get them flying over

2151
01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:48,159
uh

2152
01:23:52,390 --> 01:23:50,560
a nuclear weapon site like a minuteman

2153
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:52,400
site and they shut off all

2154
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,520
all dozen of the nuclear missiles

2155
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,600
and somehow the commander of the base is

2156
01:24:01,990 --> 01:23:59,280
supposed to be frightened about even

2157
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:02,000
reporting it i mean how preposterous is

2158
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,480
that

2159
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,320
you know and so this is the kind of

2160
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,840
conversations that we were having with

2161
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:07,440
them you know we weren't being insulting

2162
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:08,159
to them

2163
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:09,760
uh and we weren't trying to be insulting

2164
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:11,520
to the officers the commanders of these

2165
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:12,080
bases

2166
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,560
what we're saying is is that this

2167
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:16,400
situation is observed

2168
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:19,679
uh and now that the now that lou and and

2169
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:23,040
chris mellon had taken the the position

2170
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:23,520
of

2171
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:25,840
bringing these these three videos out

2172
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:26,719
and

2173
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:30,480
the board of editors of the new york

2174
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,280
times

2175
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:33,600
uh were courageous enough to actually

2176
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,639
publish them

2177
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,880
you know just like the pentagon papers

2178
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:38,560
you know that is you know i was there

2179
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:38,880
for

2180
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,800
the new york times when we decided to

2181
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,560
publish those papers

2182
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,400
so here i i could see what they were

2183
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:47,920
doing at the new york times you know

2184
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:50,880
they you bring in videos of ufos taken

2185
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:51,920
out of f-18

2186
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:55,360
hornet gunship gun gun cameras you know

2187
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:57,120
the new york times isn't automatically

2188
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,960
just going to publish them

2189
01:25:02,550 --> 01:25:00,719
they're going to they're going to make a

2190
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:02,560
lot of important decisions and they're

2191
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:02,960
going to

2192
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:04,960
bring in jim goodell their legal counsel

2193
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,719
they might know all these guys

2194
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:07,840
and they're going to sit down and but

2195
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:10,239
they decided to publish these that makes

2196
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:10,560
it

2197
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:14,159
way the same way when the new york times

2198
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:15,840
made the decision to publish

2199
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:17,920
the 47 volumes of the top secret

2200
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:19,040
pentagon papers

2201
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:20,400
and put it right on the front page of

2202
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:23,520
the new york times it was a major

2203
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:26,320
sea change in the war in vietnam it

2204
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:28,159
meant that the established people in the

2205
01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:29,440
established order

2206
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:31,520
had said it's time to bring this war to

2207
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,560
an end

2208
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,960
what's happened now is the is the

2209
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:36,560
elements inside the defense department

2210
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:37,679
lou elisando

2211
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:40,400
and chris mellon and other people like

2212
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:42,400
you know like uh steve justice

2213
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:45,120
over skunk works others have come

2214
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:46,320
forward and they're starting to say

2215
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:49,520
things like this this is a dare i say a

2216
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:50,960
game changer

2217
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,920
the people inside the inspector

2218
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,960
general's office

2219
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,760
are trying to figure out what it is that

2220
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:01,440
they're supposed to do now

2221
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,040
in light of the fact that for years

2222
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:04,800
they've decades literally they've been

2223
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:05,600
functioning

2224
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:07,199
as part of the defense department that

2225
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:08,800
had this program

2226
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:11,840
to systematically deny the reality

2227
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:14,400
that they all knew was true even to the

2228
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:14,960
poor

2229
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,440
point where their own officers wouldn't

2230
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:19,280
even ask questions about it or wouldn't

2231
01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:20,480
file reports

2232
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:22,880
so they they have to now figure out how

2233
01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:24,960
to redesign the protocols

2234
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:26,719
inside the defense department inside

2235
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,560
each of the military services

2236
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:30,480
and also inside the intelligence

2237
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,840
services which the

2238
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,600
the dod inspector general doesn't have

2239
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,920
any jurisdiction over but the cia has to

2240
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figure out what to do about this the dia

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01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:39,760
has to figure out what to do about this

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01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,760
the fbi has to figure out what to do

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01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:43,120
about this and

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01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:46,000
and lou elizondo and chris mellon by the

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01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:46,320
way

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01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:50,560
look at let us

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01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:53,440
tell you candidly in in sit downs face

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01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:54,320
to face

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01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:57,840
uh what it is that we know about this

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01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:01,440
and what it is that we know somebody

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01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:04,639
else knows but they're not sharing it

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01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:05,199
with you

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01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:07,120
and they're not sharing it with us this

2254
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:08,560
is terribly frustrating

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01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:10,880
to have you know major two or three star

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01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,639
general officers

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01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:14,800
ask questions about this and be told

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01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:16,000
that they're they're not

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01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,760
they don't have a need to know that

2260
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:19,360
they're not to be briefed in on this

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01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:20,159
whole subject

2262
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:22,159
presidents of the united states you know

2263
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:24,800
jimmy carter being told face-to-face by

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01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:27,760
by george h.w bush as the cia director

2265
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:28,800
that he didn't have any

2266
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,600
need to know this you know obviously

2267
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,560
bill clinton

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01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,040
has said many of the same things uh so

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01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,040
that this is unacceptable

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01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:39,520
in the constitutional order of a

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01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,639
democracy

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01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:42,400
you know that our people have a right to

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01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,840
know i mean

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01:27:47,669 --> 01:27:46,000
that lou is being very careful and i'm

2275
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:47,679
working with him very carefully to make

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01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:48,639
sure that he

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01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,560
doesn't transgress any of his his

2278
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:52,320
security clearances

2279
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,639
but the reality is as we had the long

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01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,480
discussions in the pentagon papers

2281
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:59,120
there's all kinds of overclassification

2282
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,480
that goes on

2283
01:28:04,709 --> 01:28:02,639
the utilization of the power to classify

2284
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:04,719
things has been misused

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01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:06,719
uh consistently inside the defense

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01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:08,239
department inside the intelligence

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01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:09,040
services

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01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:10,639
you know that they're constantly hiding

2289
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:13,199
things the american people

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01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,040
arguing well we can't tell the american

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01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:17,199
people because then our adversaries will

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01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,840
know

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01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,840
i mean they've got this whole mentality

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01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,600
that they've got this adversarial

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01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:23,199
relationship with the other nation

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01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:23,840
states

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01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:26,320
and the real reality is they have this

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01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:28,320
attitude about it because they

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01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:31,040
are the aggressor in many cases you know

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01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,400
they're the ones that invaded the middle

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01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:33,679
eastern oil fields

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01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:35,120
you know they're the ones that invaded

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01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:36,800
the south vietnam you know i mean

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01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:37,120
they're

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01:28:42,709 --> 01:28:40,239
what we have to try to do is

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01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,719
figure out how they can step back from

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01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:44,800
that kind of aggressive posture that

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01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:45,600
they've got

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01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:48,800
and stop pretending that the national

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01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:50,960
security of the united states requires

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01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:51,520
them

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01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,400
to exercise military force to seize and

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01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,080
control the natural resources

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01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:57,920
of the world on behalf of our

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01:29:01,669 --> 01:28:59,840
corporations they've got they've got to

2316
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,679
change their headset about this

2317
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,520
it's essential for the salvation of our

2318
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:05,520
whole planet you know i mean because the

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01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:06,880
ufo

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01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,320
are

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01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:12,480
constantly telling people constantly

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01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,760
communicating to people

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01:29:17,189 --> 01:29:15,840
you've got to stop these nuclear weapons

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01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:17,199
you've got to stop the explosion of

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01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:19,120
these nuclear weapons you have to stop

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01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,880
polluting your entire planet with these

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01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:22,639
fossil fuels you're destroying the

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01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:25,360
entire ecological system of your planet

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01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:27,280
you know that all the kind of

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01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:28,800
communications that people are getting

2331
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:31,120
from their encounters with these ufos

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01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:32,960
have to do with this subject over and

2333
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,239
over again

2334
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,719
now you can imagine sitting inside the

2335
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:38,400
defense department right next to the

2336
01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:39,520
pentagon

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01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:41,679
across the table talking with these men

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01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,960
about these things

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01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,960
you know you can see that their their

2340
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:46,719
their eyes are are getting bigger

2341
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:48,800
saucers you know they're starting to say

2342
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:51,360
wait a second i feel like i'm in a movie

2343
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,239
somewhere

2344
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:54,239
you know that that i'm being called upon

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01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:56,159
to make moral decisions

2346
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,320
uh that i'm being put in a situation of

2347
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:00,320
having to engage in

2348
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:03,679
heroic decisions that i need to make now

2349
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:06,239
to help save our planet you know and to

2350
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:08,000
help deal with this to keep

2351
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:09,920
to keep the momentum of the military

2352
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:11,360
industrial complex

2353
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:13,520
from you know launching weapons into

2354
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:15,199
space to try to fight

2355
01:30:18,870 --> 01:30:17,840
uh these these extraterrestrial uh

2356
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:18,880
civilizations

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01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,239
you know this is this is an

2358
01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:22,400
extraordinary moment in human history

2359
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:24,480
that we're at right now there's no

2360
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:26,080
question about that danny and it

2361
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:29,679
is changing their mindset

2362
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:31,679
right it's it's a big job let's take our

2363
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,520
break right here our guest tonight danny

2364
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:36,000
sheehan we had lou elizondo earlier

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01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,520
this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy

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01:30:48,510 --> 01:30:39,280
church stay with us we'll be right back

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01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:48,520
after this short break

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01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:02,229
way out here we listen to jimmy church

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01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:05,360
you're listening to fade to black

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always on the edge of the hottest

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not of course you do

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future of our country and where we're

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headed do you wonder about

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the food supply i do disruptions in the

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food supply chain could be disastrous

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and they usually occur with little

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you can do today

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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tonight lou elizondo and danny sheehan i

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want to thank blue for coming in earlier

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and more with danny just a second i want

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sheehan

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01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:38,960
and uh now danny continuing our

2462
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,400
conversation

2463
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,880
but i want to ask you this and and very

2464
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:44,239
directly

2465
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:47,520
is uh is that are we at a point in

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01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:48,639
history

2467
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:50,320
because you've been going up against the

2468
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:52,639
man in in washington dc

2469
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,400
for decades now uh are we at a point

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01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:58,560
where we need to look at why i'm talking

2471
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:00,159
about the ufo community

2472
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:03,280
uh as are they our friend now

2473
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:06,560
are they on our side with disclosure

2474
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:09,280
and the e.t question or do we still need

2475
01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:10,000
to proceed with

2476
01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:13,600
caution oh yeah no no this this is a

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01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:16,639
an existential process uh

2478
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:19,679
where where there's there's some kind of

2479
01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:22,880
a change is going on

2480
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,400
uh and it's it's happening uh inside

2481
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,560
the bureaucracy right now the defense

2482
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:30,480
establishment bureaucracy

2483
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:33,920
uh but it's it's been caused

2484
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:36,239
it wasn't something that they from an

2485
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:38,320
institutional point of view appear to

2486
01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:40,159
have made a decision to do

2487
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:41,840
something to start releasing a lot of

2488
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:43,280
information about this

2489
01:36:49,830 --> 01:36:46,800
lou elizondo uh and chris mellon

2490
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,840
uh two guys you know engaged in kind of

2491
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:51,440
this heroic action

2492
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:55,440
of getting these these three videos

2493
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:58,960
uh declassified and bringing them out of

2494
01:37:02,870 --> 01:36:59,520
the in

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01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,880
the the secrecy closet and brought them

2496
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:04,159
and put them on the front page of the

2497
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:05,440
new york times

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01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:07,040
were cautious enough in how they

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01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:09,040
proceeded and responsible enough and how

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01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:10,080
they proceeded

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01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:13,440
to uh to get the new york times to agree

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01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,320
to do it uh and to verify that these

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01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:18,000
these were the real these were the real

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01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:18,719
deal

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01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,239
uh so that i believe that that triggered

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01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:24,880
some kind of a process inside the the

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01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:25,920
establishment

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01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,600
of trying to figure out what to do about

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01:37:30,870 --> 01:37:29,360
that because obviously some of the

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01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:30,880
people inside the defense department

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01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:31,360
were still

2512
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:33,360
lying we're still doing the same old

2513
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,639
routine we don't know what they're

2514
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:36,239
talking about there's no such secret

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01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:36,880
program

2516
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:39,119
we don't know who lou elizado is you

2517
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,560
know and they're they're issuing these

2518
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,719
these statements from the official uh

2519
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,800
corridors of the defense department

2520
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:47,520
uh and then later on other people in the

2521
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:49,199
defense department started saying

2522
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:51,119
oh no lou elizondo was definitely the

2523
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:53,360
director of the atip program it was

2524
01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:55,199
working on ufo stuff

2525
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,800
you know and so that you began to get

2526
01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:59,360
this kind of schism that started taking

2527
01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:00,000
place

2528
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:01,840
publicly inside the defense

2529
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:03,040
establishment

2530
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:05,119
and so that what we have to do now those

2531
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:06,480
of us that have been in the ufo

2532
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:07,679
community for since

2533
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:10,800
myself since 1977 uh

2534
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:13,040
that we need to keep on moving forward

2535
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:15,040
we need to keep on sharing information

2536
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,239
with the american public

2537
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:18,480
we need to keep on asking questions we

2538
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:19,280
keep on

2539
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:23,679
all of the different instrumentalities

2540
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,800
of government

2541
01:38:28,629 --> 01:38:26,560
we need to be putting pressure on the

2542
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:28,639
members of congress to hold hearings on

2543
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:29,040
this

2544
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:31,040
we need to be putting pressure on people

2545
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:32,080
inside the

2546
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:34,800
the defense department to speak honestly

2547
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,239
and truthfully about this

2548
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:38,960
we need to be cooperating with people

2549
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:41,119
who are cooperative such as the people

2550
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:43,119
inside the inspector general's office

2551
01:38:46,629 --> 01:38:46,080
who are genuinely uh puzzled about this

2552
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,639
subject

2553
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:48,960
and are trying to get information and so

2554
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:51,199
we need to be cooperative and give them

2555
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:52,320
information

2556
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:55,199
uh and and that's why it's unique to

2557
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:56,080
have

2558
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:59,119
lou elizondo as the the head of this

2559
01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:00,719
investigative program inside the

2560
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:02,480
pentagon briefing them

2561
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,960
all now and to have brought his legal

2562
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:06,639
counsel with him

2563
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:09,440
to sit right by his side who they know

2564
01:39:12,149 --> 01:39:11,360
is the legal counsel for the disclosure

2565
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,159
project

2566
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,360
uh and they know they know who i am uh

2567
01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:17,440
and so that when lou and i are

2568
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:18,560
participating

2569
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:21,440
in meeting with these people uh we're

2570
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:22,800
actually engaged in

2571
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:25,840
attempting to provide an opportunity for

2572
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:26,560
them

2573
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:29,040
as individuals as individual human

2574
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:29,760
beings

2575
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:32,800
to to reach out and participate in this

2576
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:33,440
historic

2577
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:36,000
process that's going on right now but as

2578
01:39:40,149 --> 01:39:37,119
legal counsel

2579
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,159
i can help advise them you know they

2580
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:42,480
they they don't need to get in trouble

2581
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:44,400
they don't need to violate any security

2582
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,760
arrangements they don't need to violate

2583
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:46,880
the securities

2584
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:49,360
but they do need to do their job uh and

2585
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:51,119
that they need to they need to get some

2586
01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:52,719
kind of a sense of understanding

2587
01:39:56,310 --> 01:39:54,400
of what the constitutional

2588
01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:56,320
responsibilities are

2589
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:59,520
of a democratic government when faced

2590
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:00,800
with this information

2591
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,159
to stop pretending that somehow

2592
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:06,960
the mere acknowledgement that ufos are

2593
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,600
real

2594
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,360
and that they appear to be coming from

2595
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:11,679
an extraterrestrial civilization

2596
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:13,760
is somehow damaging to the national

2597
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:16,080
security of the united states

2598
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,880
because they've historically conflated

2599
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:20,400
the national security of the united

2600
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:21,199
states

2601
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,400
with the business interests of the major

2602
01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:26,560
corporations in the united states

2603
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:28,080
and you know it's that that old function

2604
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:29,920
that they people think that

2605
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,679
what's good for general motors is good

2606
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,119
for the country you know

2607
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:35,040
and somehow getting access to this

2608
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:37,119
information and squirreling it away

2609
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:39,119
in secret and providing it to our

2610
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,960
corporation so they can get kind of

2611
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:42,480
competitive advantage

2612
01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:45,280
not just militarily over our potential

2613
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:46,159
adversaries

2614
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:48,400
but also from an economic point of view

2615
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:49,440
that we can

2616
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,239
we can control the economy of the

2617
01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:54,239
technologies that are involved in in

2618
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,520
these ufos

2619
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:57,440
that's really what's going on here and

2620
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:58,719
so that what we have to do

2621
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,920
is we have to have a a very important

2622
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:03,520
change of attitude that needs to take

2623
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:05,600
place to start to get

2624
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:08,400
our defense establishment to be more

2625
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:10,080
honest and realistic about

2626
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,920
what the limited nature is of our true

2627
01:41:18,830 --> 01:41:15,679
national security interests

2628
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:18,840
and stop them from being driven

2629
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:21,520
unreflectingly into trying to protect

2630
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:21,920
the

2631
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:25,360
financial interests

2632
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,719
they're trying to get a hold of this

2633
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:29,040
technology and monopolize it

2634
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:30,320
that's that's a that's an

2635
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:31,840
extraordinarily important thing that's

2636
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:33,679
happening here so you get men like lou

2637
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:34,480
elizondo

2638
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:38,239
and and uh and uh chris mellon and and

2639
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,360
many others

2640
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,199
that look at this from inside and they

2641
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,040
say wait a second

2642
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,040
this is extraordinarily important

2643
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:47,199
information this is extraordinarily

2644
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:49,360
important for our whole human family

2645
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:52,000
this this has profound philosophical and

2646
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,000
even theological implications

2647
01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:57,040
for our whole family and that they feel

2648
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:59,600
morally bound to do whatever it is they

2649
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,560
can do

2650
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:03,520
without violating their duties to

2651
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:04,320
maintain

2652
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,199
legitimate national security uh but

2653
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:09,040
they're they're trying to figure out how

2654
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:10,719
they can get this information to the

2655
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:11,520
world

2656
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,400
uh and and that's part of i'm privileged

2657
01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:15,840
to be able to help council

2658
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,679
on that well let me because i think

2659
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:19,440
there's a difference in legitimate

2660
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:20,639
national security

2661
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:23,199
and non-legitimate assurance of national

2662
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:23,760
security

2663
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:26,880
and then the uap task force report comes

2664
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:27,199
out

2665
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:30,480
highly anticipated um

2666
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:34,719
but it didn't it didn't really address

2667
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:37,760
anything directly to any number of

2668
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:38,239
different

2669
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:42,000
groups out there um i i think that the

2670
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:44,880
over i would like your opinion on this i

2671
01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:46,400
think the overreaching

2672
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:49,520
view of the report was

2673
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:53,520
we know nothing well they know a lot

2674
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:56,000
and by stating that they know nothing

2675
01:43:01,430 --> 01:42:58,320
about anything in the report

2676
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,440
on on each segment of this whether it's

2677
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:03,360
et or adversarial or

2678
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:06,800
us secret access programs

2679
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,400
um that it was none of the above very

2680
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,800
very strange approach to this report but

2681
01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:14,639
they know a whole lot don't they danny

2682
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:15,840
were you surprised

2683
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,360
at the emptiness of the report no

2684
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,639
no because because you need to

2685
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,480
understand that the the

2686
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:24,159
one once you know that there's going to

2687
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,560
be a classified annex

2688
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:29,040
or basically an appendix to this short

2689
01:43:36,149 --> 01:43:29,840
report

2690
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:36,159
gotta understand this is over 400 pages

2691
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:37,679
have you seen it have you seen the

2692
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:40,239
classified you have not no i have not no

2693
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:40,719
i'm not

2694
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:43,600
but but it's over 400 pages you know in

2695
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,239
that these

2696
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:45,840
these nine pages they released there's

2697
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:47,440
really six pages

2698
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:50,000
of any substance at all you know so even

2699
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:51,679
the nine pages isn't real

2700
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:53,760
it's only six pages did you just say

2701
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:56,639
it's over 400 pages i thought the report

2702
01:44:00,550 --> 01:44:00,080
was 78 pages no no no that's that's sort

2703
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:00,560
of a

2704
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:04,719
the ufo community

2705
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:08,159
okay uh i think it started actually was

2706
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:09,040
deep bassett

2707
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:10,880
steve was trying to get some sort of a

2708
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:12,960
general sense of how big it was

2709
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,800
uh and he was trying to look at various

2710
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:16,239
sources that uh

2711
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:17,920
people who had spoken with the new york

2712
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:20,000
times and and other things but but the

2713
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:22,000
reality is that those who have actually

2714
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:25,119
seen it know that it's 400 pages uh

2715
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:26,960
and so there's a considerable amount of

2716
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:30,239
information that's in those 400 pages

2717
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,800
uh and but the the six pages of

2718
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:34,480
substance that they actually revealed

2719
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:36,480
did say some things that are extremely

2720
01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:37,600
important

2721
01:44:41,750 --> 01:44:40,159
if you read it very closely you know

2722
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:41,760
that for example

2723
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:44,800
they they have said they have said

2724
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:47,040
all kinds of people they never mentioned

2725
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:48,080
extraterrestrial

2726
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,800
once no in the entire painting never

2727
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:52,400
they never made all the all they have is

2728
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:53,600
the other box

2729
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:55,600
there's this group of other there's this

2730
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:57,920
other box where they put stuff into

2731
01:45:00,950 --> 01:45:00,320
uh and they even said with regard to

2732
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:00,960
withdraw

2733
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:02,639
they said that we aren't really able to

2734
01:45:06,470 --> 01:45:04,080
determine anything

2735
01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:06,480
about these things yet uh and they

2736
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:08,159
they've also covered themselves by

2737
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:08,560
saying

2738
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:11,199
you know it was an extremely narrow uh

2739
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:11,760
group of

2740
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:13,840
sightings that we had we referred to we

2741
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:16,560
only watched when we took a look at 144

2742
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:17,360
of these

2743
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:19,199
we were only able to define one of them

2744
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:20,800
they had to get the old weather balloon

2745
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:21,360
in

2746
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:22,960
you know and say that that was a weather

2747
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:25,840
balloon the other 143

2748
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:28,320
we looked at uh were only those that

2749
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:29,119
were

2750
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:31,360
military they're only from a certain

2751
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:33,600
period of time that went from 2004 to

2752
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:34,960
2019

2753
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:37,840
or so you know they've they've delimited

2754
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:38,239
the

2755
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,679
were doing

2756
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:44,960
that was me texting you danny yeah yeah

2757
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:47,440
yeah it's okay i didn't realize that

2758
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:48,400
your phone was still

2759
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:52,000
on danny and i are in a group text with

2760
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:53,360
a bunch of other people during the

2761
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:54,880
interview

2762
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:57,679
okay so continue continue so so so so

2763
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:58,639
the bottom line is

2764
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:01,520
is that the well what they what they

2765
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:02,320
have said

2766
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:05,360
is that that really 99

2767
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:07,920
of anything of substance is going to go

2768
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:09,760
into the other box

2769
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:12,400
of this other box that they've got and

2770
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:14,159
that's where the 400 pages really

2771
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,080
attempt to talk about all that

2772
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:19,199
uh and it's it's absolutely clear it's

2773
01:46:24,550 --> 01:46:20,560
absolutely clear now

2774
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:24,560
that they know even in the uap test room

2775
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:25,520
they know

2776
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:28,239
that even what to whatever degree the

2777
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:29,920
united states has succeeded in

2778
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,239
recovering any of the downed craft

2779
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,920
uh and to the extent to which they've

2780
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:35,360
been succeeded in

2781
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,760
re back engineering any of the

2782
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,360
technology and there's a whole bunch of

2783
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:41,600
debate as you know going on about that

2784
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:44,320
that's happening but they point out that

2785
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:45,920
their position is clear

2786
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:49,199
that whatever number of highly

2787
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,400
sophisticated

2788
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:52,560
secret military technologies the united

2789
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:53,760
states have

2790
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:56,800
the vast majority of even these 144

2791
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,800
incidents that they looked at the vast

2792
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,239
majority were not

2793
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:03,040
any of that technology so they aren't

2794
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:03,600
saying

2795
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:07,040
such technology that we don't have

2796
01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:08,800
anything like this what they're saying

2797
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:11,040
is the ones we're talking about

2798
01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:14,320
aren't those uh and then what they tried

2799
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,199
to for

2800
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:16,800
at the beginning they tried to suggest

2801
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:19,119
well it's possible that they are russian

2802
01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:20,000
or chinese

2803
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:21,600
it's not possible that they're russian

2804
01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:23,840
or chinese and lou lou elizondo

2805
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:25,360
and chris mellon and the others are

2806
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:27,520
shutting that down they're saying that's

2807
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:30,480
ridiculous uh because if in fact the the

2808
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:32,000
chinese or the russians had any

2809
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:32,960
technology like

2810
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:35,280
it goes 43 000 miles an hour in the

2811
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:36,159
atmosphere

2812
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:38,719
uh you know and can can go faster than

2813
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:39,679
the speed of light

2814
01:47:43,669 --> 01:47:41,600
and go under the ocean at 200 miles an

2815
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:43,679
hour if they had anything conceivably

2816
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:44,480
near that

2817
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:47,280
you know uh that it would be the most

2818
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:48,320
colossal

2819
01:47:51,669 --> 01:47:49,840
failure of intelligence in the history

2820
01:47:52,149 --> 01:47:51,679
of human family for us not to know about

2821
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:52,159
it

2822
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:54,400
and the fact is we do know that that

2823
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:55,199
isn't theirs

2824
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:57,679
we know it's not theirs okay so they've

2825
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:59,119
eliminated both of those they've

2826
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,320
eliminated

2827
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,400
the vast majority of the instances are

2828
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:04,000
not our technology whatever

2829
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:05,520
else might be going on with our

2830
01:48:08,550 --> 01:48:07,600
technology and they're not chinese or

2831
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,560
russian

2832
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:11,280
so that leaves the other box in this

2833
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:12,560
this other box

2834
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:15,440
you know they they steadfastly refrain

2835
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:15,840
from

2836
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:18,639
speculating in any way about it but the

2837
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,159
fact of the matter is when lou

2838
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:22,400
lou was interviewed by the associated

2839
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:23,840
press on june

2840
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,960
uh on may 4th uh

2841
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:29,679
yeah it was it was june june 4th he when

2842
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:30,960
he was interviewed by associated

2843
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:32,080
president june 4th

2844
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:35,040
he said the chances at all of these

2845
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:36,400
being chinese or russian

2846
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:40,000
is so infinitesimally small uh that it's

2847
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,000
basically functionally eliminated

2848
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:44,320
uh and once you eliminate those things

2849
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,199
they said to him

2850
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,520
the the ap guy said to danhoff one of

2851
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:49,119
the guys he said there were three

2852
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:51,600
ap guys interviewing him and he said

2853
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,320
well what

2854
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:54,159
what are you guys considering what were

2855
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:55,600
you inside the

2856
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,360
the atip what were you looking at and

2857
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:58,960
lou was quite clean and he said

2858
01:49:02,030 --> 01:49:00,960
well you know the primary theory that

2859
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:02,040
we're looking at is that they're

2860
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:03,360
extraterrestrial

2861
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,239
that they've come from an

2862
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:06,560
extraterrestrial civilization

2863
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,560
and then he actually said it is possible

2864
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,280
that they may even be extra dimensional

2865
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:13,520
because it's quite clear that whatever

2866
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,880
the method of transit

2867
01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:17,040
is that they use from coming from a

2868
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:18,960
different star system to coming to our

2869
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:19,760
planet

2870
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,840
it gives the appearance of being extra

2871
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:22,800
dimensional

2872
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:25,920
that they kind of materialize another

2873
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:26,960
dimension right

2874
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,360
they just appear and disappear so that

2875
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:31,280
some people are suspecting that they may

2876
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:32,400
be just entirely

2877
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:35,440
uh from another dimension but but

2878
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:37,360
whichever of those is true you know

2879
01:49:42,950 --> 01:49:39,599
you're dealing with a a reality that

2880
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:42,960
that 99 of the evidence is coming in

2881
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:44,960
indicates that they're extraterrestrial

2882
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:47,119
and he made reference to the eric davis

2883
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,880
quote right in the new york times

2884
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:51,280
where he he acknowledged in the new york

2885
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:52,960
times chose to publish it

2886
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:55,119
that he said that he had briefed the u.s

2887
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,000
senate intelligence

2888
01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,119
committee and that he and his colleagues

2889
01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:01,360
most of them believe that these are

2890
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:02,239
other

2891
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:05,280
off-world vehicles that was his phrase

2892
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:06,560
these are off-world

2893
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:09,280
vehicles you know uh and so that that's

2894
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:10,400
an extraordinary

2895
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:13,040
uh concession not only on the part of

2896
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:14,000
eric davis

2897
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:15,440
but it's on the part of the new york

2898
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:18,480
times to publish a thing like that

2899
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,560
so the reality is and i said this when

2900
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:22,080
we were sitting talking to the inspector

2901
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,639
general

2902
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,719
i said look you got you guys can spend a

2903
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:26,320
whole lot of time if you want

2904
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,520
trying to figure out how fast these

2905
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:29,280
things go what their propulsion system

2906
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:31,199
is how they can handle 600 g's

2907
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:32,560
but the reality is what you're going to

2908
01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:34,560
have to come to grips with this who is

2909
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:36,000
flying these things

2910
01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:39,199
where they come from

2911
01:50:43,109 --> 01:50:40,719
and what are they what's their agenda

2912
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:43,119
here you know i mean how how long can

2913
01:50:45,589 --> 01:50:44,000
you pretend

2914
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:45,599
that that's not what the issue is that's

2915
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:47,040
here you know the the

2916
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:49,760
you know like like you know someone you

2917
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:50,400
know

2918
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:52,639
someone materializes in your living room

2919
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:54,080
and you're wondering what kind of shoes

2920
01:50:56,310 --> 01:50:55,040
they've got on

2921
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:56,320
you know and you're saying no look at

2922
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:57,920
that's not the issue where do these

2923
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:58,880
people come from

2924
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:00,960
and what are they up to and what kind of

2925
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:02,960
a what kind of an extraordinary

2926
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:05,520
civilization do they represent and of

2927
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,080
course

2928
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:08,080
you know all these guys in the defense

2929
01:51:10,310 --> 01:51:09,599
department are saying are saying to

2930
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:10,320
themselves

2931
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:13,440
wow this is way above our pay grade

2932
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:15,520
way above our pay grade but what we're

2933
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:18,480
saying is figure out what is within your

2934
01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:19,440
pay grade

2935
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:22,639
and do

2936
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:26,080
that job because doing your job here

2937
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:27,440
within your pay grade

2938
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:30,159
is going to contribute to everybody else

2939
01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:32,080
being freed up to do their job

2940
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:34,320
inside their pay grades and that's what

2941
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:36,000
we've got to do we got to push it into

2942
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:36,800
the congress

2943
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,920
we've got to push it into the

2944
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:39,599
president's office we've got to push it

2945
01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:40,719
all the way up to the secretary of

2946
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:41,920
defense's office

2947
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,840
we've got to get everybody doing their

2948
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:45,440
constitutional duty

2949
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:48,320
uh about this subject right now i wanted

2950
01:51:54,229 --> 01:51:49,679
to

2951
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,239
you about this

2952
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:56,080
this i'm going to do air quotes here

2953
01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:00,159
danny the 23-minute uap ufo video

2954
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,840
that everybody is talking about i'm

2955
01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:03,520
going to ask you directly have you seen

2956
01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:04,639
it

2957
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:07,280
no would you tell me if you have would

2958
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:08,880
you would you tell me if you did

2959
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:11,199
okay oh yeah no no see that's one of the

2960
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,040
things they're they're

2961
01:52:17,109 --> 01:52:15,440
engaged now and trying to figure out is

2962
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:17,119
what what is it they can say in my

2963
01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:18,560
presence

2964
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:21,119
and i won't tell everybody you know

2965
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,320
that's that's what they're saying

2966
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,000
and so they're and i've said to them

2967
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,080
before i said look i

2968
01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:28,480
despite my entire history of record you

2969
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:30,400
know of confronting

2970
01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:32,719
injustices inside the executive branch

2971
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,159
and inside the government

2972
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:35,679
i said you know the fact of the matter

2973
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:38,239
is i believe that there is such a thing

2974
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:39,599
as genuine

2975
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:42,800
security interests for our human family

2976
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:46,000
uh for our planet for a given nation

2977
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:46,639
state i

2978
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,320
understand what their what their jobs

2979
01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:50,159
are you know i'm not trying to you know

2980
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:52,159
rub their nose in it but what i'm saying

2981
01:52:57,510 --> 01:52:54,560
is you need to confine yourself

2982
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:57,520
to the constitutionally authorized

2983
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:58,400
authority

2984
01:53:02,149 --> 01:53:00,639
to keep certain things secret not

2985
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:02,159
expanded out all

2986
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:05,679
there's no re there's no conceivable

2987
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:08,800
legitimate national security reason

2988
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:11,760
why they can't acknowledge that the ufos

2989
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:12,000
are

2990
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,560
real that they that they believe that

2991
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,320
the ufos appear to come from an

2992
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,400
extraterrestrial civilization

2993
01:53:22,709 --> 01:53:21,119
uh and that we are we are devoted our

2994
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,719
country and our human family

2995
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:24,719
and all of our nation states together

2996
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:26,000
are devoted to

2997
01:53:31,510 --> 01:53:29,040
figuring out who these people are and

2998
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:31,520
extremely importantly we're devoted to

2999
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:32,560
figuring out

3000
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:35,760
who is it among us that already know

3001
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:36,880
this

3002
01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:39,280
and why are they keeping it secret and

3003
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:41,280
to whose advantage is that keeping this

3004
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:42,159
thing secret

3005
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:44,080
and what are they trying to do by owning

3006
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:46,080
and monopolizing this information

3007
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,520
and trying to figure out how to turn it

3008
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,199
into their own private benefit

3009
01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:51,440
and not sharing it with our human family

3010
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,960
well we're we're here faced with a

3011
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:54,719
potential global climate change and

3012
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:55,920
burning fossil fuels

3013
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,679
we've still got nuclear waste materials

3014
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,159
from 103 nuclear power plants just in

3015
01:54:03,589 --> 01:54:02,000
our own country we got fukushima

3016
01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:03,599
pouring radioactive waste into the

3017
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:05,679
pacific ocean we've got another

3018
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:08,480
another 200 such facilities all around

3019
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,360
our planet

3020
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:11,119
all within one mile of the of the

3021
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:12,880
seashores you know in the

3022
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:14,719
the global climate change is raising the

3023
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:16,000
levels of the sea

3024
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:17,920
we're looking at potentially hundreds of

3025
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,040
fukushima's

3026
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:21,360
pouring radioactive material into our

3027
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,080
ocean

3028
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:25,199
you know and and yet the there's a group

3029
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:25,920
of people

3030
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:28,960
human beings on in our human family who

3031
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:31,280
are monopolizing this information

3032
01:54:36,229 --> 01:54:34,000
and concealing it from us and using the

3033
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:36,239
rules of it being national security

3034
01:54:39,589 --> 01:54:38,159
that doesn't allow us to talk about this

3035
01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:39,599
yeah glow in the dark

3036
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:42,880
glow-in-the-dark sushi it is in our

3037
01:54:47,589 --> 01:54:43,360
future

3038
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:47,599
really quick who is randolph

3039
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:50,320
strong he's a ghost i can't find any

3040
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:52,080
information out about this guy

3041
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:55,840
who is he is a harvey's a really

3042
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:58,480
great guy is it harvey strong or

3043
01:55:05,990 --> 01:54:59,199
randolph

3044
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:06,000
but harvey is his nickname his is uh

3045
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:07,360
kind of known to gareth

3046
01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:09,599
if you will okay but the bottom line he

3047
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:10,480
he is the

3048
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,920
the project manager of the uh

3049
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:15,760
division of the inspector general's

3050
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:17,760
office in charge of space

3051
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:21,040
intelligence and engineering

3052
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:24,320
oversight he is the one who issued

3053
01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:27,440
the public memorandum uh on

3054
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:30,880
the on on may 3rd later in the day after

3055
01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:33,199
lou and i filed his major complaint with

3056
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:34,639
the defense department about

3057
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,840
what they were doing and how they were

3058
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:38,159
mishandling this entire subject

3059
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:40,800
so he came forward and he's the one that

3060
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:41,599
made bold

3061
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:45,280
to call for this much more far-reaching

3062
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:47,520
uh evaluation inside inside the

3063
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:49,199
inspector general's office

3064
01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:52,080
uh and he is he's a he's a very strong

3065
01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:53,760
character he's uh he's a

3066
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:55,679
as far as i can tell is a decent uh

3067
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:57,280
honest guy

3068
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:59,599
uh you know i mean most of the people

3069
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:01,440
that are locked out of the

3070
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,599
of the government circles you know have

3071
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:05,520
developed a very intense

3072
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:07,679
suspicion about our government

3073
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:08,560
structures

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01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:11,119
uh and i must say i think i gave him

3075
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:12,400
some of that idea

3076
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:15,280
you know over over the last 50 years you

3077
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know

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01:56:21,669 --> 01:56:18,639
constitutional scholar

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01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:21,679
is trained that the underlying

3080
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:23,360
assumption of our constitutional

3081
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:24,639
government is to

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01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:27,679
distrust government structures

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01:56:31,189 --> 01:56:29,840
unless they prove to you that they are

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01:56:33,109 --> 01:56:31,199
to be relied upon

3085
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:33,119
you know you challenge them you ask them

3086
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:34,880
questions you hold them to

3087
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:37,119
their constitutional duty you know and

3088
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:38,080
and nobody

3089
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:39,840
inside government likes that you know

3090
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:41,920
it's just it makes their job harder they

3091
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:42,400
think

3092
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:43,280
you know but that's what the

3093
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,800
constitution is about that's what

3094
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,560
democracy is about

3095
01:56:50,629 --> 01:56:48,560
and in this particular instance this is

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01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:50,639
the most important single subject

3097
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:52,960
uh possibly confronting our entire human

3098
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:53,760
family

3099
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:57,040
right now and it touches directly upon

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01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,040
the other major questions that we all

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01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:01,360
know about about global climate change

3102
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:03,040
potential flu thermonuclear

3103
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:04,800
self-destruction uh and the

3104
01:57:09,669 --> 01:57:06,639
contamination through the nuclear

3105
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:09,679
power plants uh of our entire our entire

3106
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,800
ecosystem

3107
01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:12,880
these are these are crucial uh

3108
01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:14,719
challenges that our human family has

3109
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:16,480
generated for ourselves

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01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:20,159
and and there is some tiny minority of

3111
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:21,360
our human family

3112
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:24,639
who is who are keeping this information

3113
01:57:28,149 --> 01:57:26,719
secret and they're doing it for their

3114
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:28,159
own advantage

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01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:29,440
for their they're trying to figure out

3116
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:31,199
how they can capitalize on it how they

3117
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:32,560
can make money on it

3118
01:57:35,990 --> 01:57:35,360
how they can control this technology and

3119
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:36,000
establish

3120
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:40,239
of the united states nation state over

3121
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:42,080
all the other countries of our planet

3122
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:43,360
you know this is

3123
01:57:47,589 --> 01:57:46,080
not a constitutionally acceptable

3124
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:47,599
activity on their part

3125
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:49,760
and we need as constitutionalists and

3126
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:51,599
people who believe in democracy

3127
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:54,000
to take this over not not to complete to

3128
01:57:56,790 --> 01:57:55,679
generate complete anarchy we're not

3129
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:56,800
saying here

3130
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,960
open up the doors of the pentagon and

3131
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,800
show it you'll show us how to all make a

3132
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:02,320
hydrogen bomb you know we're not

3133
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:04,159
we're not talking about that stuff we're

3134
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,920
talking about acknowledging the most

3135
01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:07,599
important single subject

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01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:09,360
that our human family has confronted it

3137
01:58:13,589 --> 01:58:11,360
has vast implications

3138
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:13,599
for our theological view of the world

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01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,760
our our human world view of how we fit

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01:58:19,910 --> 01:58:17,040
into the entire

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01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:19,920
fabric of our universe you know in into

3142
01:58:24,070 --> 01:58:21,119
to have people

3143
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:24,080
stealing this information in using the

3144
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:26,000
color of authority of our united states

3145
01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:28,320
governmental institutions to secret

3146
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:31,199
secret this information uh and keep it

3147
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:32,320
for themselves in

3148
01:58:36,229 --> 01:58:35,440
some corporate boardrooms somewhere uh

3149
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:36,239
you know is

3150
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:39,040
totally unacceptable uh and it is i

3151
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,000
think a lot of it is

3152
01:58:44,390 --> 01:58:42,400
what offended lou i i think i can't

3153
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:44,400
speak for chris as much but i mean i

3154
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:46,000
think it has offended them

3155
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:48,000
it's offended them as patriots it's

3156
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:49,199
offended them as

3157
01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:52,320
americans to see this being done uh

3158
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:55,040
because it's it's clear that up until

3159
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:56,400
this point in time

3160
01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:57,920
even though there's technical things

3161
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:59,840
that the ufos are doing

3162
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:02,000
it's clear that they're flying around in

3163
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:03,599
quote our airspace

3164
01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:05,599
without permission from our national

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01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:07,119
security state officials

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01:59:11,109 --> 01:59:09,440
yeah right you know but but you know and

3167
01:59:13,270 --> 01:59:11,119
it is true i mean to be a little more

3168
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:13,280
serious for them to shut off our nuclear

3169
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,560
missiles uh that that that threatens

3170
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:17,920
those who believe that

3171
01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:20,080
we ought to have nuclear missiles that

3172
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:21,760
can we can use to back up

3173
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:23,520
our invasion of other countries of the

3174
01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,199
world you know and if they

3175
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:27,360
if they resist us we can nuke them you

3176
01:59:32,229 --> 01:59:30,000
know this is this is a horrible idea

3177
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:32,239
you know uh it's it's only been around

3178
01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:33,360
since the first

3179
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:35,040
nuclear explosion was a hundred days

3180
01:59:39,589 --> 01:59:36,960
after i was born i mean this is on

3181
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:39,599
our watch the creation of these nuclear

3182
01:59:42,709 --> 01:59:40,239
weapons and

3183
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:42,719
utilization of them to back you know uh

3184
01:59:46,709 --> 01:59:45,040
unjust corporate power in our united

3185
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,719
states over the entire world

3186
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:48,800
into to threaten other people around the

3187
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:50,400
world destroying their civilian

3188
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:51,360
population

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01:59:55,030 --> 01:59:53,040
when i was when i was legal counsel with

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01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:55,040
the jesuit order in washington dc in

3191
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:56,880
their national social ministry office

3192
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:59,280
we got the catholic church in the united

3193
02:00:02,229 --> 02:00:00,560
board of homeland ministries of the

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02:00:04,790 --> 02:00:02,239
methodist church to declare

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02:00:05,669 --> 02:00:04,800
the mere possession of nuclear weapons

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02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:05,679
to be

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a mortal sin because they're inherently

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designed to destroy the civilian

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02:00:15,350 --> 02:00:12,800
population

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02:00:17,189 --> 02:00:15,360
and that is in violation of every single

3201
02:00:19,750 --> 02:00:17,199
concept of fair warfare

3202
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:19,760
you know of the just war theory and we

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02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:20,320
got we

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02:00:23,510 --> 02:00:21,760
declared that the bishops of the

3205
02:00:25,750 --> 02:00:23,520
catholic church have declared that

3206
02:00:27,669 --> 02:00:25,760
uh and it's true and so we have an

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02:00:29,830 --> 02:00:27,679
obligation same thing that

3208
02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:29,840
most of the people who encounter ufo

3209
02:00:33,030 --> 02:00:31,760
beings the actual beings who are

3210
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:33,040
piloting these things

3211
02:00:36,550 --> 02:00:35,040
who are asking us to do something to get

3212
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:36,560
rid of these nuclear missiles

3213
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:39,360
for our own self-preservation we've got

3214
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:40,159
to do that

3215
02:00:43,350 --> 02:00:42,080
we've got to start listening now we've

3216
02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:43,360
got to get past the

3217
02:00:47,589 --> 02:00:46,000
the fixation on how fast they go how

3218
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:47,599
many g's do they pull

3219
02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:49,520
you know what's making what's their

3220
02:00:52,310 --> 02:00:50,639
propulsion system

3221
02:00:54,390 --> 02:00:52,320
you know we've got to come to grips with

3222
02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:54,400
what is the implication of this

3223
02:00:57,830 --> 02:00:56,159
you know what is the implication of an

3224
02:01:00,790 --> 02:00:57,840
entire civilization

3225
02:01:02,709 --> 02:01:00,800
existing outside of our planet's domain

3226
02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:02,719
you know in which we find ourselves

3227
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,440
and we need to start addressing that and

3228
02:01:08,950 --> 02:01:07,199
we cannot sit around waiting for the

3229
02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:08,960
government to tell us what to do

3230
02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:10,400
nor can we sit around and wait for the

3231
02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:12,239
churches to tell us what to do

3232
02:01:16,310 --> 02:01:14,560
you know we as citizens of the world and

3233
02:01:17,830 --> 02:01:16,320
as members of our human family need to

3234
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:17,840
do this ourself

3235
02:01:21,270 --> 02:01:19,920
uh in this courageous people like lou

3236
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:21,280
and chris and

3237
02:01:24,709 --> 02:01:23,679
and and eric and these other people that

3238
02:01:27,430 --> 02:01:24,719
are coming out

3239
02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:27,440
from inside that set of institutions and

3240
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:29,280
starting to do the courageous work to

3241
02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:31,040
get this conversation going

3242
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let's take a break right here our guest

3243
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:34,400
tonight danny sheehan

3244
02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:36,880
i want to thank lou elizondo for coming

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in earlier this is fade to black i'm

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yours jimmy church

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more with danny after this short break

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stay with us

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02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:17,840
and kgra the global radio alliance

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host with character i guess not the one

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02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:35,599
and only

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danny p sheehan i'm gonna hold up uh

3356
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:42,880
here's a picture of a danny and i a

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02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:43,440
couple of

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02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:45,599
weeks ago everybody i'm holding this up

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02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:46,960
to the camera remember this danny you

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02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:49,199
remember this moment

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02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:53,520
yeah you're on a law firm

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02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,400
yeah yeah and they framed this and uh

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02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:58,560
gave this to me but it's a great picture

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and i've got it here in the studio

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um i wanted to ask you this let's let's

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02:07:09,109 --> 02:07:06,079
go direct

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02:07:11,589 --> 02:07:09,119
is it time danny you and i talked about

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02:07:14,470 --> 02:07:11,599
this a couple of weeks ago in private

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02:07:15,430 --> 02:07:14,480
um and and and your beautiful wife uh

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02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:15,440
was there and

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02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:19,679
she was going yes jimmy um is this time

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02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:22,800
for the disclosure movement

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02:07:29,589 --> 02:07:26,480
to gather at the lincoln memorial

3374
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:29,599
is this time for us to all of the great

3375
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:30,719
changes

3376
02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:33,440
uh throughout history happened uh the

3377
02:07:37,669 --> 02:07:35,440
start of it was always right there

3378
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:37,679
at the lincoln memorial is is it time

3379
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:38,800
for us to uh

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to think about organizing something

3381
02:07:45,589 --> 02:07:44,960
well i i think that the the most

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02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:45,599
important

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02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:49,440
thing for us to organize is the direct

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02:07:55,750 --> 02:07:52,719
contact experience is for us to

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02:07:57,589 --> 02:07:55,760
to have training for people to figure

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02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:57,599
out how to gather together

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02:08:01,910 --> 02:08:00,239
and and uh gather at each other's homes

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02:08:05,109 --> 02:08:01,920
and go out in your backyard

3389
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:05,119
uh and reach out telepathically to the

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02:08:08,390 --> 02:08:07,280
to the beings there's other things i

3391
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,400
mean i i know

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this isn't speaking as lou's lawyer or

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or

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speaking on behalf of any of the other

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02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,840
fellows in the military but i think that

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that what we have to do is we have to

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02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,800
have a direct citizen diplomacy program

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02:08:24,790 --> 02:08:22,800
that we have to reach out to try to

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02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:24,800
establish direct communications with the

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beings because

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the reality is that the the existence of

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this extraterrestrial civilization

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uh where they come from what their

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02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:34,800
agenda is it's going to be

3405
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:37,199
they're going to tend to be concealed uh

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02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:38,719
until they decide

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02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:41,760
how much of it they want made public you

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know

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and so that i think that we have that

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02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:46,400
when uh back back when i was at jesuit

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headquarters

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uh i had jimmy garrison uh

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02:08:53,990 --> 02:08:52,400
my deputy that was in charge of the

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nuclear weapons policy

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you know go to russia and he ended up

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meeting directly with gorbachev back

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when gorbachev was just the secretary of

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02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:03,199
agriculture and started talking about

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02:09:07,109 --> 02:09:04,960
how we can work all together to

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disassemble the nuclear warheads

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uh of both of their countries and to get

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uh

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02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:13,360
china to join in with this as well and

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02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:14,560
others that

3425
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this this is how we ended up this is

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part of the process that went on to get

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gorbachev

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to declare uh glasnost and perestroika

3429
02:09:26,149 --> 02:09:24,639
and to decide to step back he didn't

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02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:26,159
decide to step back

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02:09:29,430 --> 02:09:28,480
from the cold war because of some

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diplomatic

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stuff that was done on the part of our

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02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:32,880
government threatening him or

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it's it's totally crap to say oh well

3436
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:37,360
the reagan administration decided they

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02:09:42,310 --> 02:09:39,679
were going to do star wars and it scared

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02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:42,320
russia so they all decided to quit in

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02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:44,639
the cold war that's not true at all

3440
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:46,480
you know this was citizen to citizen

3441
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:48,079
diplomacy that went on over

3442
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:50,000
years of reaching out and having

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02:09:52,629 --> 02:09:51,199
conversations with them

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02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:52,639
uh talking with people through the

3445
02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:54,800
churches and the synagogues and and you

3446
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:56,480
know this is this is the way to do this

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02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:56,960
thing

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02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:00,159
that we we have to stop relying upon

3449
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:03,280
some elite governing class uh

3450
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:09,910
but don't we go visible don't we put

3451
02:10:14,229 --> 02:10:11,199
pressure on

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02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:14,239
this elite group who i want to talk

3453
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,639
about

3454
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:17,040
with you by the way uh you've made some

3455
02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:19,199
very good points about this lately

3456
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:22,800
but i'm i'm talking about 500

3457
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:25,840
000 a million people

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02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:28,639
a disclosure movement in washington to

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02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:28,960
put

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02:10:35,669 --> 02:10:32,560
pressure on our elected officials

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02:10:38,550 --> 02:10:35,679
that we are serious about this and we

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02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:38,560
need movement and having something

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02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:40,239
visible like that

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02:10:44,390 --> 02:10:42,320
may be the next step i'm being very

3465
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:44,400
serious about this danny sure i i know

3466
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:45,920
you are no i believe that

3467
02:10:49,990 --> 02:10:48,880
everybody should do everything that we

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02:10:53,830 --> 02:10:50,000
can think of

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02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:53,840
to try to do the difficulty is is that

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that is assuming that we have to rely

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upon

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pressuring these people to do something

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02:11:05,510 --> 02:11:04,000
they don't otherwise want to do you know

3474
02:11:07,830 --> 02:11:05,520
and somehow you're going to

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02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:07,840
put 500 000 people in the street and

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march up and down the streets and get

3477
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you know that that that has its own role

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02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:13,920
i've done those things you know when

3479
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:17,119
when uh orlando lotalia was murdered uh

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by the deena by the

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the secret police of chile you know a

3482
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:22,400
block from my office

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02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:24,400
you know i helped work and organize a

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02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:25,760
massive march

3485
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:27,760
that went from the chilean embassy all

3486
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the way to the funeral

3487
02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:31,440
uh uh at the church of saint matthews

3488
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you know

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one of my best friends a catholic priest

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02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:36,639
jesuit who was my superior

3491
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:38,480
you know celebrate at the funeral mass

3492
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:40,639
for them we had diplomats lining the

3493
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:42,159
walls we had

3494
02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:44,960
joan baez singing ave maria we had you

3495
02:11:49,910 --> 02:11:46,719
know we were doing everything

3496
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:49,920
to try to force the the revelation of

3497
02:11:53,109 --> 02:11:51,760
the fact that it was the deena

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02:11:54,950 --> 02:11:53,119
that involved were involved in

3499
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,960
assassinating orlando italia or the

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ambassador from chile

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02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,840
from chile to the united states and we

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02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,760
ended up succeeding eventually

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02:12:03,669 --> 02:12:01,760
it took years and years and years and

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02:12:06,149 --> 02:12:03,679
years of pressuring the government

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02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:06,159
and the the problem is is that the

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02:12:10,790 --> 02:12:09,119
ruling class the ruling elite that

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02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:10,800
fill in these government positions

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02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:13,040
around the world they have their own

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02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:14,079
agenda

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02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:16,719
uh and that it is not to do what is that

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02:12:19,990 --> 02:12:18,400
in the best interest of the people

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02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:20,000
is to do the what is in the best

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02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:21,840
interest of them and their fellow

3514
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:24,400
people uh and so that you know that just

3515
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,400
marching up and down the street

3516
02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:28,400
it doesn't really persuade them you know

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02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:29,760
the reality is

3518
02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:32,239
but but and i'm not i'm i'm certainly

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02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:33,599
not as a

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02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:35,920
public justice lawyer dismissing the

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02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:37,840
importance of those things those are all

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02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:40,159
important every single one of us should

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02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:42,159
do whatever it is that

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02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:45,119
she or he is capable of doing and

3525
02:12:48,709 --> 02:12:47,119
organizing people to engage in these

3526
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:48,719
mass demonstrations

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02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:51,360
is a is a part of what needs to be done

3528
02:12:54,629 --> 02:12:52,000
i i

3529
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:54,639
agree with you uh because i'm saying is

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that the

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the there also has to be this extremely

3532
02:13:01,910 --> 02:13:00,079
important thing that

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02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:01,920
to demonstrate to the people in

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02:13:06,310 --> 02:13:03,199
positions of power

3535
02:13:08,470 --> 02:13:06,320
that we're not going to wait for them

3536
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:08,480
to reveal this to us that we're going to

3537
02:13:11,430 --> 02:13:09,520
reach out to

3538
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:11,440
to do everything we can do to establish

3539
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:13,280
direct con contact with these

3540
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:14,480
extraterrestrial beings

3541
02:13:17,669 --> 02:13:15,920
and i mean even to the point of

3542
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:17,679
sometimes they they suggest they're

3543
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:18,159
gonna

3544
02:13:21,910 --> 02:13:20,960
bring logan act charges against people

3545
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:21,920
for

3546
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:24,320
attempting to have diplomatic relations

3547
02:13:27,830 --> 02:13:25,760
with a foreign power

3548
02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:27,840
i mean they certainly can't do that for

3549
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:29,199
someone they don't even acknowledge

3550
02:13:32,470 --> 02:13:30,159
exists

3551
02:13:34,069 --> 02:13:32,480
you know so so it isn't likely and if

3552
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:34,079
anybody gets charged with the logan act

3553
02:13:39,430 --> 02:13:36,159
violation i'll defend them for free

3554
02:13:41,109 --> 02:13:39,440
i can tell you it would be it would be a

3555
02:13:42,790 --> 02:13:41,119
great a great opportunity to get in

3556
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:42,800
front of an american jury

3557
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:45,520
uh in in the call the call to witnesses

3558
02:13:48,310 --> 02:13:46,480
from the government

3559
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:48,320
to deal with this issue so they're not

3560
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:49,920
likely to throw us into that

3561
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:52,800
that briar patch you know so so i think

3562
02:13:55,189 --> 02:13:54,320
yes that we should have major

3563
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:55,199
demonstrations

3564
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:57,040
i think we should have but very

3565
02:14:01,270 --> 02:13:58,400
importantly a direct

3566
02:14:02,149 --> 02:14:01,280
citizens initiative a citizen's

3567
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:02,159
diplomatic

3568
02:14:07,990 --> 02:14:05,520
initiative to go forward under the ce5

3569
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:08,000
and get everybody involved stephen greer

3570
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:09,599
has been helping to train people to do

3571
02:14:12,709 --> 02:14:10,079
this

3572
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:12,719
you know mark sims is is working on it

3573
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:13,199
now

3574
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:14,960
uh we're talking about setting up a

3575
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:17,840
virtual new paradigm institute

3576
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:19,760
to invite people from around the world

3577
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:21,040
to come and sit

3578
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:23,280
virtually around the table to have this

3579
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:24,960
this set of discussions among our

3580
02:14:30,109 --> 02:14:27,280
citizenry about what to do about this

3581
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:30,119
the catholic church back in november of

3582
02:14:37,750 --> 02:14:31,360
2009

3583
02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:37,760
calling upon the people of the world to

3584
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:40,239
start to have this profound really

3585
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:41,679
serious discussion

3586
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:43,920
about the the important philosophical

3587
02:14:46,950 --> 02:14:45,520
and theological questions that are

3588
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:46,960
presented to our

3589
02:14:50,709 --> 02:14:49,280
human family by the discovery of life

3590
02:14:53,589 --> 02:14:50,719
elsewhere in the universe

3591
02:14:55,430 --> 02:14:53,599
and in my capacity is the legal counsel

3592
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:55,440
of the jesuit office

3593
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:57,760
i reached out immediately to father jose

3594
02:15:00,950 --> 02:14:58,880
gabriel funes

3595
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:00,960
who was the director of the pontifical

3596
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:02,560
observatory in rome

3597
02:15:06,229 --> 02:15:04,719
at castle gondalfo who actually issued

3598
02:15:06,950 --> 02:15:06,239
the public statement on behalf of the

3599
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:06,960
church

3600
02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:09,520
and i s within 48 hours i was sitting

3601
02:15:12,870 --> 02:15:11,119
talking to him about this

3602
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:12,880
and he admitted to me in the first two

3603
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:14,079
minutes i was talking to him that he

3604
02:15:17,830 --> 02:15:15,280
wasn't talking about

3605
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:17,840
you know you know microcellular life

3606
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:19,520
discovered under some frozen

3607
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:21,760
lake on a distant moon somewhere he's

3608
02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:22,960
talking about another

3609
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:24,800
highly intelligent highly

3610
02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:26,560
technologically developed

3611
02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:29,679
but categorically non-human species

3612
02:15:34,950 --> 02:15:32,719
elsewhere in our galaxy

3613
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:34,960
there's a full-scale sophisticated

3614
02:15:38,470 --> 02:15:36,320
civilization here

3615
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:38,480
in the the time has come for us to come

3616
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:40,320
to grips with this reality

3617
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:42,800
and that we have to show that we're

3618
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:43,679
worthy of this

3619
02:15:50,709 --> 02:15:46,960
we can't sit back and wait for you know

3620
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:50,719
democracy is not a spectator sport

3621
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:52,560
you know as you know we're all trained

3622
02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:54,239
to sit and watching the you know the the

3623
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:54,719
bucks

3624
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:57,040
you know play the play the phoenix suns

3625
02:16:01,830 --> 02:15:58,560
or watching the you know the

3626
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:01,840
the dallas cowboys you know play the

3627
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:03,599
the boston patriots of the new england

3628
02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:04,880
page and we're all

3629
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:06,639
we're all trapped in these kind of

3630
02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:09,280
passive observations

3631
02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:11,679
we need to participate in this process

3632
02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:14,079
and participating it includes getting in

3633
02:16:17,830 --> 02:16:15,040
the streets

3634
02:16:19,910 --> 02:16:17,840
uh participating includes leaning on

3635
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:19,920
their our government representatives

3636
02:16:23,350 --> 02:16:21,360
uh leaning on them to have public

3637
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:23,360
hearings about this it means that

3638
02:16:27,669 --> 02:16:26,400
you know people who run a a radio show

3639
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:27,679
like this of yours

3640
02:16:31,750 --> 02:16:30,079
bringing people on to talk about this

3641
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:31,760
and and getting people to send in their

3642
02:16:35,669 --> 02:16:33,679
questions for all of us to answer to

3643
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:35,679
have this be open and transparent

3644
02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:38,160
process and in this this new thing the

3645
02:16:43,270 --> 02:16:40,319
new paradigm academy this virtual

3646
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:43,280
our new paradigm institute this virtual

3647
02:16:45,750 --> 02:16:44,080
institute

3648
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:45,760
is going to bring on all the new

3649
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:48,000
technology that's going to enable people

3650
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:49,519
to come together

3651
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:52,160
as i said sitting around a table in in

3652
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:52,960
talking with

3653
02:16:57,270 --> 02:16:55,519
with world leaders around the world and

3654
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:57,280
civilians all around the world who know

3655
02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:58,240
about this

3656
02:17:02,150 --> 02:17:00,399
and and people can come and participate

3657
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:02,160
in this everybody can have their own

3658
02:17:07,750 --> 02:17:05,840
little uh what they call them the avatar

3659
02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:07,760
avatars that's that their little avatar

3660
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:14,309
mark mark sims is going to be financing

3661
02:17:19,509 --> 02:17:16,080
the the technology of this

3662
02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:19,519
of this platform so that the the avatars

3663
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:20,559
are going to look just

3664
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,960
virtually just exactly like a person

3665
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:24,719
i've seen your avatar

3666
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:28,319
like you

3667
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:30,399
but that's a that's a little primitive

3668
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:31,920
those things this is going to be really

3669
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:32,880
sophisticated

3670
02:17:35,509 --> 02:17:34,000
you basically aren't going to be able to

3671
02:17:36,629 --> 02:17:35,519
tell the difference between an avatar

3672
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,639
and an actual

3673
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:39,120
visual of the person this is this is and

3674
02:17:42,309 --> 02:17:40,240
you're going to be sitting around that

3675
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:42,319
you can sit around the table and talk to

3676
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:43,920
albert einstein

3677
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,519
you can sit on the table and talk to

3678
02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:47,760
plato you know this is this this

3679
02:17:51,669 --> 02:17:49,599
this i gotta say one more thing that he

3680
02:17:55,270 --> 02:17:51,679
is he has figured out a way he can

3681
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:55,280
he can provide he can program the avatar

3682
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:58,319
with all of the knowledge of the person

3683
02:18:01,509 --> 02:17:59,840
whose avatar that is

3684
02:18:03,349 --> 02:18:01,519
and just like you're talking to siri on

3685
02:18:06,070 --> 02:18:03,359
the telephone you say siri

3686
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:06,080
you know tell me what who were the who

3687
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:06,719
are the

3688
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,319
people that were on the nino the pinto

3689
02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:10,319
and the santa maria and within 30

3690
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:11,599
seconds she'll start telling you who

3691
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:13,120
they all are right because it's all

3692
02:18:17,589 --> 02:18:14,719
filed away it's all by

3693
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:17,599
by technology that can be done now for

3694
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:18,000
for

3695
02:18:23,750 --> 02:18:21,760
participating in this

3696
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:23,760
government people you can you can

3697
02:18:27,429 --> 02:18:24,880
program through

3698
02:18:27,910 --> 02:18:27,439
through ai the information that they

3699
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:27,920
have

3700
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:29,760
and so you can actually sit at the table

3701
02:18:32,709 --> 02:18:31,760
and you can convene them to come and sit

3702
02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:32,719
at the table

3703
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:35,760
to talk about this most profound of all

3704
02:18:39,750 --> 02:18:37,439
questions that our human families ever

3705
02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:39,760
confronted and we can participate in

3706
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:41,679
this regular people can come and sit at

3707
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:42,479
the table

3708
02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:44,880
and have these conversations this this

3709
02:18:49,589 --> 02:18:47,599
technology of the new paradigm institute

3710
02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:49,599
that mark sims is getting set to finance

3711
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:50,639
and put together

3712
02:18:53,910 --> 02:18:52,800
is going to be extraordinarily important

3713
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:53,920
for the for

3714
02:18:58,469 --> 02:18:56,319
housing in in facilitating this

3715
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:58,479
conversation that's going to be going on

3716
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,719
you know uh and so that i i just want to

3717
02:19:05,750 --> 02:19:01,840
know that it

3718
02:19:07,589 --> 02:19:05,760
we don't have to rel depend solely upon

3719
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:07,599
filling the streets of washington dc

3720
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:09,760
with 500 000 people and marching on the

3721
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:10,719
capitol building

3722
02:19:14,469 --> 02:19:12,719
you know what we've got to do is we've

3723
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:14,479
got to work together

3724
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:17,200
to go out in in the meadows and the

3725
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,960
fields of our country

3726
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:20,319
and reach out together through

3727
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:22,240
meditation and certain techniques

3728
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:25,200
you know that stephen greer has a whole

3729
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:26,319
training program

3730
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:28,240
to help show people how to how to do

3731
02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:30,000
this you know the mark sims and the

3732
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:30,719
people at the

3733
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:32,240
the new paradigm institute are going to

3734
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:34,160
be training people on how to do this

3735
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:36,160
and we have to train an entire

3736
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:37,359
generation of

3737
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:40,240
diplomats we have to have citizen

3738
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:41,200
diplomats

3739
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:42,880
that are going to be trained to be you

3740
02:19:45,669 --> 02:19:43,840
know what are you going to do it's like

3741
02:19:47,190 --> 02:19:45,679
the dog that catches the car right

3742
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:47,200
you go out in the middle of the field oh

3743
02:19:50,950 --> 02:19:49,040
please come down and talk to us

3744
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:50,960
they landed they land a flying saucer

3745
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:52,080
there and what are you going to say to

3746
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:52,800
him

3747
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:54,640
you're going to say oh well like betty

3748
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:56,319
hill said i don't know this but i can i

3749
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:57,760
can send you to somebody

3750
02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:59,439
you know we we need to be able to know

3751
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:01,359
what to say and what we're going to be

3752
02:20:05,590 --> 02:20:03,280
proposing for policies here

3753
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:05,600
well this time around instead of joan

3754
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:06,960
baez we're going to have the foo

3755
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:09,760
fighters i'm just letting you but but

3756
02:20:14,070 --> 02:20:10,560
but danny

3757
02:20:17,349 --> 02:20:14,080
um i have to i have to ask you

3758
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:17,359
is if if the pressure and everything

3759
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:17,760
that

3760
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:19,920
you and this community is doing right

3761
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:20,800
now

3762
02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:24,240
and we continue this and suddenly

3763
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,680
our government reveals that they do have

3764
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:30,160
in their possession you know crashed and

3765
02:20:34,230 --> 02:20:30,880
retrieved

3766
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:34,240
flying saucers is the world ready for

3767
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:34,640
that

3768
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:39,600
going to be able to handle this

3769
02:20:43,590 --> 02:20:42,240
well that's that's part of the we we are

3770
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:43,600
the world

3771
02:20:50,469 --> 02:20:47,120
i mean we we need to prepare ourselves

3772
02:20:51,429 --> 02:20:50,479
for this reality whatever the means are

3773
02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:51,439
and whatever the

3774
02:20:57,110 --> 02:20:54,479
the the rate at which this information

3775
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:57,120
is acknowledged uh both by our

3776
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:59,120
government institutions and by the et

3777
02:21:03,030 --> 02:21:00,640
civilization itself

3778
02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:03,040
uh by institutions such as the churches

3779
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:03,920
etc

3780
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:06,080
uh that that we need to prepare

3781
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:07,200
ourselves for

3782
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:10,240
this information uh so that the

3783
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:12,080
you know no matter how slowly they do

3784
02:21:15,349 --> 02:21:14,479
this the institutions or how rapidly

3785
02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:15,359
they do that

3786
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,920
we as people are responsible for this

3787
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:19,520
you know it's like you're with your with

3788
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:20,640
your own children

3789
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:22,800
how how aggressively are you going to

3790
02:21:25,990 --> 02:21:24,560
train your children about some of the

3791
02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:26,000
realities of the outside

3792
02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:28,800
world you know you just have to do that

3793
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,680
you can't just

3794
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:31,439
throw them outdoors and say here you

3795
02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:33,200
know figure out what it looks like in

3796
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:34,399
the outside world

3797
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:35,840
you know there's a whole educational

3798
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,240
process and we need to do that now a lot

3799
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,319
of people of course speculate that

3800
02:21:43,990 --> 02:21:42,640
the the government institutions in the

3801
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,000
ruling elite

3802
02:21:47,429 --> 02:21:46,160
have been doing this over the past 75

3803
02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:47,439
years that they've been

3804
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:49,600
feathering this information in i mean

3805
02:21:52,469 --> 02:21:50,880
you take you take the average

3806
02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:52,479
seven-year-old here in the united states

3807
02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:54,240
and ask them to draw an extraterrestrial

3808
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:55,600
and they'll draw it for you

3809
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:57,920
you know the big eyes and the big head

3810
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:59,439
and you say here draw a flying saucer

3811
02:22:01,110 --> 02:22:00,800
and they'll draw you the flying saucers

3812
02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:01,120
so

3813
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,399
process going on

3814
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:06,319
over all these years to try to feather

3815
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:07,600
this information in

3816
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,720
but at the same time the governing elite

3817
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:12,479
have been holding back the key

3818
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:14,960
information about the technologies

3819
02:22:18,150 --> 02:22:16,479
uh and that they've been you know

3820
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:18,160
they've been making us

3821
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:20,960
you know suffer the consequences of our

3822
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:21,600
own

3823
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,319
ignorance but we've been we've been

3824
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:26,399
victimized we're being taken advantage

3825
02:22:31,030 --> 02:22:27,040
of

3826
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:31,040
planet

3827
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:33,600
who believe that they are in charge and

3828
02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:35,760
that they have a right to monopolize the

3829
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:36,560
technology

3830
02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:38,000
the same kind of people that rose to

3831
02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:40,560
power back in the robber baron era

3832
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:43,359
you know from 1890 1868 at the end of

3833
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:45,600
the american civil war to 1898

3834
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:48,000
a short 30-year period there you know

3835
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:48,640
there were like

3836
02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:51,680
two dozen families that rose to immense

3837
02:22:56,469 --> 02:22:54,560
fabulous wealth by monopolizing the

3838
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:56,479
steel production the iron

3839
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,200
the the railways the the shipping lines

3840
02:23:02,230 --> 02:23:01,120
the telegraphs the communications the

3841
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:02,240
agribusiness come

3842
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:04,560
you know these two dozen families came

3843
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:05,280
to own

3844
02:23:08,309 --> 02:23:07,439
and monopolize virtually all the major

3845
02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:08,319
sectors of our

3846
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,880
of our economy you know and so that the

3847
02:23:15,110 --> 02:23:13,200
fact is they haven't let go since then

3848
02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:15,120
uh and they're they're involved in

3849
02:23:18,790 --> 02:23:16,880
controlling this information

3850
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:18,800
they're holding it for themselves and

3851
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:20,160
they're letting us all suffer the

3852
02:23:22,309 --> 02:23:21,280
consequences so

3853
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:22,319
rather than getting into a

3854
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:24,640
confrontational fight with them

3855
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:28,080
or relying solely upon mobilizing more

3856
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:29,680
and more people marching in the streets

3857
02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:30,960
of washington dc

3858
02:23:34,630 --> 02:23:32,960
to try to frighten them into thinking

3859
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:34,640
they're going to lose control somehow

3860
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,920
over the population

3861
02:23:39,110 --> 02:23:38,080
you know we've got to take it into our

3862
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:39,120
own power

3863
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:41,200
we've got to reach out establish direct

3864
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,399
citizen diplomacy with the

3865
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:43,920
extraterrestrial beings

3866
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:46,000
come to understand whatever the

3867
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:47,680
reticence is that they have for

3868
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:49,040
revealing themselves

3869
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:50,960
you get them to share this information

3870
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:52,880
with us as to why they're not coming

3871
02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:53,600
forward

3872
02:23:56,710 --> 02:23:55,200
and making it obvious so that we can

3873
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,720
take that into account

3874
02:24:00,150 --> 02:23:59,200
you know uh we don't we don't want to

3875
02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:00,160
shock the

3876
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:02,080
the conscience of the citizens of the

3877
02:24:04,870 --> 02:24:04,080
world and we don't want to traumatize

3878
02:24:08,309 --> 02:24:04,880
our people

3879
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,319
know suddenly faced with

3880
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,479
the realization that their that their

3881
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:12,000
whole world view has been wrong

3882
02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:15,200
and you know in despair over this

3883
02:24:19,670 --> 02:24:17,760
we want to do this in a responsible way

3884
02:24:20,710 --> 02:24:19,680
uh but but we need to have the

3885
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:20,720
information

3886
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:24,160
that's being sequestered

3887
02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:27,200
by certain elements high up in the

3888
02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:29,280
corporate structures of our country

3889
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:32,720
that have have pirated this information

3890
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:34,960
from the government and are holding it

3891
02:24:38,469 --> 02:24:37,040
in their own private corporate hands

3892
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:38,479
you know we've got to be able to get at

3893
02:24:40,790 --> 02:24:40,319
this and we've known this for some time

3894
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:40,800
now

3895
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:43,920
that this element exists and if

3896
02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:45,760
you were to do about it if you were

3897
02:24:50,389 --> 02:24:47,760
going to um and i've

3898
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:50,399
i've recently heard you uh speak about

3899
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:51,760
this small

3900
02:24:59,270 --> 02:24:55,439
elite group is it is it an extension

3901
02:25:03,349 --> 02:24:59,280
of those families is it a new generation

3902
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:03,359
uh are we speaking purely in a private

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02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:06,479
uh a corporate and banking structure

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02:25:11,830 --> 02:25:08,720
that is independent of

3905
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:11,840
uh state actors well it

3906
02:25:17,110 --> 02:25:14,960
it uh it would have been but for their

3907
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:17,120
having taken over the instrumentalities

3908
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:18,240
of government

3909
02:25:21,349 --> 02:25:19,600
you know that's what happened back

3910
02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:21,359
during the robert baron era is they

3911
02:25:25,830 --> 02:25:22,399
basically

3912
02:25:27,750 --> 02:25:25,840
pl applied their talents in

3913
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:27,760
obtained economic control over the

3914
02:25:31,750 --> 02:25:29,120
economic resources

3915
02:25:34,070 --> 02:25:31,760
and they translated that into capturing

3916
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:34,080
the institutions of government itself

3917
02:25:37,349 --> 02:25:35,520
you know to the point where they would

3918
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:37,359
would be able to dictate sending foreign

3919
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,439
expeditionary forces for example into

3920
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:40,560
nicaragua

3921
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:42,800
to overthrow the government down there

3922
02:25:46,389 --> 02:25:43,760
uh because

3923
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:46,399
the united fruit corporation you know

3924
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:47,200
wanted to

3925
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:50,240
there you know

3926
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:51,760
the same way that they invaded and

3927
02:25:54,950 --> 02:25:53,359
overthrew the government of moses deck

3928
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:54,960
over in iran because they wanted to have

3929
02:25:57,830 --> 02:25:55,840
the oil

3930
02:26:00,389 --> 02:25:57,840
you know these are their central

3931
02:26:02,230 --> 02:26:00,399
intelligence agency is playing a major

3932
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,240
key role in this the central

3933
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:04,080
intelligence agency that was created in

3934
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:06,399
1947 through the national security act

3935
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:07,760
of 1947

3936
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:10,880
has been steadfastly dedicated to

3937
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:11,680
applying

3938
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:13,680
their trade on behalf of the american

3939
02:26:17,110 --> 02:26:14,960
corporations

3940
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:17,120
and getting access to the resources of

3941
02:26:21,030 --> 02:26:19,040
other countries around the world

3942
02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:21,040
in toppling governments that don't agree

3943
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:23,120
to give us unfettered access to their

3944
02:26:26,309 --> 02:26:24,560
resources etc

3945
02:26:28,389 --> 02:26:26,319
that you know as as of all the

3946
02:26:31,349 --> 02:26:28,399
instrumentalities

3947
02:26:32,389 --> 02:26:31,359
the central intelligence agency is a

3948
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:32,399
fundamentally

3949
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,680
and profoundly corrupt organization

3950
02:26:38,710 --> 02:26:37,040
now that doesn't mean that there aren't

3951
02:26:39,590 --> 02:26:38,720
good people that don't know any better

3952
02:26:40,870 --> 02:26:39,600
that are in it

3953
02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:40,880
and trying to figure out what they can

3954
02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:43,120
do to help but the reality is that the

3955
02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:44,240
first the first

3956
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:47,439
memos that were written suggesting to uh

3957
02:26:51,030 --> 02:26:49,120
president truman that there be such an

3958
02:26:53,429 --> 02:26:51,040
organization was written by

3959
02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:53,439
robert lovett robert lovett was a senior

3960
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:55,359
partner in brown brothers harriman

3961
02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:57,040
brown brothers harriman was a private

3962
02:27:00,389 --> 02:26:58,880
investment firm that was made up of the

3963
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:00,399
heads of these families

3964
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:03,040
and the ceo of that was george herbert

3965
02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:04,319
walker

3966
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:06,240
uh in the legal council for that was

3967
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:07,680
alan dulles

3968
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:09,280
and he ended up being made the first

3969
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:10,720
civilian head of the central

3970
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:11,920
intelligence agency

3971
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:13,840
but his power came from the fact that he

3972
02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:15,520
was legal counsel for brown brothers

3973
02:27:18,389 --> 02:27:16,319
harriman

3974
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:18,399
he was the consecutive for these

3975
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:20,880
families you know and that the cia

3976
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:23,760
was steadfastly devoted to pursuing it

3977
02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:24,399
you can

3978
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:26,800
take a look for example that uh david

3979
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:27,439
talbot

3980
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:29,040
wrote this extraordinarily important

3981
02:27:33,429 --> 02:27:30,640
books called alan

3982
02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:33,439
dulles the rise and fall of the secret

3983
02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:35,200
american government

3984
02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:37,520
you know the this is not unknown this

3985
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:38,319
information

3986
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:41,359
the question is how do we who have

3987
02:27:45,030 --> 02:27:43,520
had the advantage of getting a full

3988
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:45,040
scholarship to harvard college for

3989
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,479
example in harvard law school and

3990
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:48,240
getting to study all of this stuff

3991
02:27:51,910 --> 02:27:50,560
among the elite and the major prep

3992
02:27:53,830 --> 02:27:51,920
school people

3993
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:53,840
come out to the world and say let me

3994
02:27:57,750 --> 02:27:55,920
tell you what i've discovered here

3995
02:27:59,190 --> 02:27:57,760
let me tell you what i found out you

3996
02:28:00,630 --> 02:27:59,200
know that they're trying to recruit us

3997
02:28:02,950 --> 02:28:00,640
from the working class

3998
02:28:03,750 --> 02:28:02,960
to join with them and share in their

3999
02:28:06,309 --> 02:28:03,760
privilege

4000
02:28:08,150 --> 02:28:06,319
you know and we've said no you know and

4001
02:28:10,469 --> 02:28:08,160
we want to tell people what we really

4002
02:28:12,469 --> 02:28:10,479
discovered about how these secret powers

4003
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:12,479
operate and they're operating here in

4004
02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:14,800
this area with regard to the ufos

4005
02:28:17,990 --> 02:28:17,280
uh in the technology that they represent

4006
02:28:20,070 --> 02:28:18,000
uh and

4007
02:28:21,910 --> 02:28:20,080
the good people like louis elizondo and

4008
02:28:22,870 --> 02:28:21,920
chris mellon and eric davis and the

4009
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:22,880
other people

4010
02:28:29,110 --> 02:28:26,880
who are offended by what's going on here

4011
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:29,120
are trying to figure out how they can

4012
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:30,160
participate

4013
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:32,640
and getting this information made

4014
02:28:37,830 --> 02:28:34,960
available to the people of the world

4015
02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:37,840
it doesn't really transgress any

4016
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:38,720
legitimate

4017
02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:40,800
national security interest of our

4018
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:43,120
country you know and that's the key to

4019
02:28:46,389 --> 02:28:44,160
this thing

4020
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:46,399
again i don't i don't need to speak just

4021
02:28:49,510 --> 02:28:48,399
on behalf of lou or chris or any of the

4022
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:49,520
other people they can speak for

4023
02:28:52,790 --> 02:28:50,560
themselves on this

4024
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:52,800
but i think you can tell that that's

4025
02:28:54,950 --> 02:28:54,240
what they're trying to do they're trying

4026
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:54,960
to figure out

4027
02:28:58,150 --> 02:28:57,600
how they caught in this extraordinary

4028
02:29:01,230 --> 02:28:58,160
moment

4029
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:01,240
of history uh can fulfill their moral

4030
02:29:04,630 --> 02:29:02,560
responsibilities

4031
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:04,640
not only to their fellow citizens here

4032
02:29:07,429 --> 02:29:05,840
right now but to the

4033
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:07,439
to their grandchildren and their

4034
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:09,040
grandchildren's grandchildren

4035
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:10,560
this is something that's going to affect

4036
02:29:13,349 --> 02:29:11,600
our relationship with the

4037
02:29:16,469 --> 02:29:13,359
extraterrestrial civilization

4038
02:29:18,070 --> 02:29:16,479
for thousands of years to come i mean

4039
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:18,080
that that's the importance of this

4040
02:29:21,429 --> 02:29:19,520
particular moment

4041
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:21,439
you know that we're engaged in right now

4042
02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:23,439
this this is trans-historical

4043
02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:25,439
what's happening right now and it has to

4044
02:29:28,630 --> 02:29:26,720
be handled well

4045
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:28,640
thank you so much danny what a great

4046
02:29:34,309 --> 02:29:31,200
conversation and you've had a very

4047
02:29:35,750 --> 02:29:34,319
very busy year certainly a very busy

4048
02:29:36,070 --> 02:29:35,760
couple of weeks and it's not going to

4049
02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:36,080
get

4050
02:29:41,990 --> 02:29:38,640
any easier but thank you man for rolling

4051
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:42,000
that rock uphill man thank you so much

4052
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:44,560
it's an absolute privilege to get to get

4053
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:46,080
to be here at this time

4054
02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:49,680
your true words have never been spoken

4055
02:29:53,349 --> 02:29:51,520
danny sheehan thank you so much my

4056
02:29:54,230 --> 02:29:53,359
friend and we'll be speaking very soon

4057
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:54,240
thank you so much

4058
02:29:57,590 --> 02:29:56,479
absolutely thank you jimmy you're stay

4059
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:57,600
at it you're the best

4060
02:30:00,950 --> 02:30:00,240
you too danny you too thank you so much

4061
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:00,960
daniel

4062
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:04,000
p sheehan and now go enjoy the rest of

4063
02:30:07,910 --> 02:30:06,240
your evening and give my best to sarah

4064
02:30:10,309 --> 02:30:07,920
i will speak to you soon thank you so

4065
02:30:11,750 --> 02:30:10,319
much this is fade to black i'm yours

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jimmy church i'm going to take a quick

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break

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church what an extraordinary

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night uh tonight lou

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lou elizondo and danny sheen coming in

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and uh just absolutely incredible

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conversations tonight going down

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uh kicking off a pretty amazing week

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here on fade to black tomorrow night

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02:34:42,230 --> 02:34:39,200
grant cameron is joining us and then

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02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:42,240
wednesday night debbie cobble is here

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02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:44,800
and debbie was the subject of bud

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hopkins book

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intruders and everybody has read that

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and you've probably often wondered who

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is this person well you're gonna meet

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debbie

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on wednesday night an absolutely

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incredible life of contact

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and then thursday night live from

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australia ross

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02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:06,880
culfart is with us and uh what

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02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:08,880
what what a week we've got coming up

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02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:10,800
here on fade to black

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uh we just had a very incredible two and

4169
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a half hours

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02:35:21,590 --> 02:35:18,399
of conversations uh with lou and

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danny what did you think seven four

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seven two two eight two zero five one

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seven

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two 747-228-2051 and i am going to

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go straight to the phones let's see

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02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:33,760
who's up first hi you're live on fade to

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black who's calling

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02:35:39,349 --> 02:35:38,160
what's up jimmy this is steve slightly

4179
02:35:42,790 --> 02:35:39,359
slanted sleuth

4180
02:35:46,150 --> 02:35:42,800
how are you i'm doing good how are you

4181
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:46,160
pretty good how was your trip man uh

4182
02:35:49,270 --> 02:35:48,399
you heard you were in a movie or

4183
02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:49,280
something yeah i

4184
02:35:55,990 --> 02:35:52,960
i certainly was uh it was great

4185
02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:56,000
and more details as

4186
02:36:00,070 --> 02:35:58,880
uh time time goes by but uh i posted

4187
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:00,080
stuff on

4188
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:03,359
on social media what i could um

4189
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:06,240
and uh you got a lot of noise coming

4190
02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:07,280
from your phone

4191
02:36:15,190 --> 02:36:11,120
but um uh linda moulton howe

4192
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:15,200
uh richard dolan uh william henry

4193
02:36:21,670 --> 02:36:18,479
and uh who uh

4194
02:36:21,990 --> 02:36:21,680
who am i leaving out i'm leaving out a

4195
02:36:24,309 --> 02:36:22,000
couple

4196
02:36:25,429 --> 02:36:24,319
of people uh uh of course uh debbie

4197
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:25,439
cobble

4198
02:36:33,110 --> 02:36:28,880
uh was there and it was just

4199
02:36:34,790 --> 02:36:33,120
it was just uh an extraordinary week

4200
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:34,800
i apologize for putting you on the spot

4201
02:36:39,910 --> 02:36:36,880
there that's okay that's okay

4202
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:39,920
i'm still a little a little brain dead

4203
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:43,040
um yeah yeah

4204
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:44,960
oh whitley streamer of course too

4205
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:47,920
whitley whitley was with us

4206
02:36:52,150 --> 02:36:49,760
there you go whenever you need to

4207
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:52,160
remember something never comes up right

4208
02:36:56,550 --> 02:36:55,120
but yeah uh so i jimmy i don't want to

4209
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:56,560
put you on a spot again but

4210
02:37:01,270 --> 02:36:59,040
would you uh consider doing an interview

4211
02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:01,280
with a guy named phil langdon

4212
02:37:06,469 --> 02:37:05,120
uh who's phil langdon he's he's written

4213
02:37:09,910 --> 02:37:06,479
a couple books he's uh

4214
02:37:13,030 --> 02:37:09,920
he's somebody who has um uh

4215
02:37:16,230 --> 02:37:13,040
he studied the the alien thing he uh

4216
02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:16,240
debunked billy myers uh stuff back in

4217
02:37:19,830 --> 02:37:17,200
the day

4218
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:19,840
and uh he's he's got a couple books

4219
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:21,120
one's called ascension

4220
02:37:27,590 --> 02:37:24,800
and one's called blueprint of the gods

4221
02:37:29,110 --> 02:37:27,600
but if you're willing if you're willing

4222
02:37:31,510 --> 02:37:29,120
to interview him i could probably

4223
02:37:32,950 --> 02:37:31,520
uh set it up for you and get him to give

4224
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:32,960
you an email and

4225
02:37:36,389 --> 02:37:34,640
you know it's it's pretty interesting

4226
02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:36,399
the stuff he has to say and how it ties

4227
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:37,600
into our reality

4228
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,880
well yeah i mean um i'm not interested

4229
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:42,160
in in revisiting

4230
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:45,600
uh billy meyer but if if he's no no no

4231
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:46,000
no

4232
02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:50,160
was giving you that it was a bank story

4233
02:37:54,070 --> 02:37:51,520
so what did you think about the

4234
02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,080
conversation tonight uh with uh lou and

4235
02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:56,880
danny sheehan i didn't hear the part

4236
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,960
with lou but i did hear the the end of

4237
02:38:02,389 --> 02:38:00,080
what danny was saying

4238
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:02,399
and and to be honest with you jimmy i'm

4239
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:04,319
not saying taking away anything from

4240
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,000
what he said but it's it's pretty much

4241
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:08,080
everything that's been said already and

4242
02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:12,000
and and i wanted to to run this by you

4243
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:13,600
do you ever think there's going to be

4244
02:38:18,230 --> 02:38:15,200
some disclosure from the government

4245
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:18,240
or or the powers that be well i

4246
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:21,680
i it depends on uh if you're talking

4247
02:38:28,150 --> 02:38:24,160
about the grand disclosure

4248
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:28,160
um i don't know i i my take is and it's

4249
02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:29,840
a very simple one

4250
02:38:34,230 --> 02:38:32,880
if the government goes all out and and

4251
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:34,240
says e.t is here

4252
02:38:38,389 --> 02:38:36,960
it's because their hand was forced

4253
02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:38,399
there's going to be something that is

4254
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:39,120
going to

4255
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:42,240
it voluntarily

4256
02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:46,240
no but having these conversations happen

4257
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:48,399
today like with the ua ptf

4258
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:51,200
report and the senate intelligence

4259
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:52,560
committee and

4260
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:54,960
and susan gao of the pentagon talking

4261
02:38:58,630 --> 02:38:56,560
about all of this stuff

4262
02:39:00,469 --> 02:38:58,640
that's that's that's pretty

4263
02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,479
extraordinary in of itself

4264
02:39:03,910 --> 02:39:02,319
uh to have this going on because it's

4265
02:39:06,309 --> 02:39:03,920
never happened like this before ever

4266
02:39:09,990 --> 02:39:06,319
it's never even been close to this

4267
02:39:13,270 --> 02:39:10,000
so um having having lou

4268
02:39:16,309 --> 02:39:13,280
and uh and and chris mellon and others

4269
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:16,319
uh pushing this issue it's never been

4270
02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:17,920
like this before and

4271
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:21,359
it's uh pretty exciting right i

4272
02:39:24,790 --> 02:39:23,120
i just think that they they keep

4273
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:24,800
throwing us a bone here and there

4274
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:26,880
just to uh i don't know what the what

4275
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:28,319
the purpose is but

4276
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:31,040
you know i just hey i commend you dude

4277
02:39:34,469 --> 02:39:32,560
you're becoming uh

4278
02:39:35,910 --> 02:39:34,479
a celebrity in your own right and i

4279
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:35,920
appreciate everything you do you're an

4280
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:36,800
awesome dude man

4281
02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:39,040
thanks for keep keeping on keeping on

4282
02:39:41,030 --> 02:39:40,720
thank you so much steve and behave and

4283
02:39:43,030 --> 02:39:41,040
be

4284
02:39:44,710 --> 02:39:43,040
well and uh we'll see you tomorrow night

4285
02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:44,720
right here

4286
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:47,760
all right brother right on um

4287
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:51,280
the uh uh the bones

4288
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:54,880
that he is referring to we've never had

4289
02:40:02,070 --> 02:39:58,720
bones before okay

4290
02:40:05,990 --> 02:40:02,080
it's it's pretty extraordinary

4291
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:06,000
uh to uh to have the bones thrown

4292
02:40:09,110 --> 02:40:08,399
at us i i i don't know where all of this

4293
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:09,120
is leading

4294
02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:12,479
i i really don't i'm hoping that uh the

4295
02:40:18,870 --> 02:40:15,200
pressure can be kept up that we have to

4296
02:40:21,269 --> 02:40:18,880
uh continuously speak about this and

4297
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:21,279
and and move this thing forward uh it's

4298
02:40:26,790 --> 02:40:23,600
pretty extraordinary to have somebody

4299
02:40:29,830 --> 02:40:26,800
uh like lou come on the show today

4300
02:40:33,670 --> 02:40:29,840
and say that he has seen

4301
02:40:37,750 --> 02:40:33,680
a 23-minute ufo

4302
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:37,760
uap video uh 23 minutes

4303
02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:42,399
is not uh a few seconds like we have uh

4304
02:40:46,830 --> 02:40:45,920
uh been witnessing okay this is this is

4305
02:40:50,630 --> 02:40:46,840
a little bit

4306
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:50,640
23 minutes that's a lot of data

4307
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:53,840
you can you can deduce a lot

4308
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:56,880
uh from that just with your eyeballs

4309
02:41:01,269 --> 02:40:59,600
um that's pretty extraordinary uh will

4310
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:01,279
this get leaked

4311
02:41:06,469 --> 02:41:04,240
will this be presented uh will it be

4312
02:41:09,590 --> 02:41:06,479
released by the department of defense

4313
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:09,600
who's got the video is it the navy

4314
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:13,760
is it the air force um i lou

4315
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:15,760
said that when i asked him how it was

4316
02:41:20,230 --> 02:41:16,800
shot from uh

4317
02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:20,240
from an airplane or and he said i i

4318
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:22,479
forget his exact terminology but it was

4319
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:25,359
a data collection center or something

4320
02:41:30,950 --> 02:41:28,560
something of that nature

4321
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:30,960
it's pretty interesting so what you know

4322
02:41:35,510 --> 02:41:32,640
homeland security

4323
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:35,520
what is this video the uh i'll get to

4324
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:37,520
the calls in a second

4325
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:41,680
i've often said uh with uh with the tic

4326
02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:42,880
tac in the gimbal

4327
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,680
and and the go fast videos that there's

4328
02:41:50,150 --> 02:41:46,960
video before

4329
02:41:52,790 --> 02:41:50,160
and after we just got a sliver

4330
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:52,800
a few seconds of video you know what a

4331
02:41:57,349 --> 02:41:53,920
minute

4332
02:42:00,230 --> 02:41:57,359
of a video that's not what was shot

4333
02:42:01,030 --> 02:42:00,240
there's a hole there's a there's like a

4334
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:01,040
terabyte

4335
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:04,880
sd card full of video on those

4336
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:07,920
we just got the sliver uh what is

4337
02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:11,439
in front and in back of those videos is

4338
02:42:15,269 --> 02:42:13,680
is the data you know and also with your

4339
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:15,279
own eyeballs and what were the pilots

4340
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:15,840
saying

4341
02:42:20,870 --> 02:42:18,880
well if you've got a 23 minute video now

4342
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:20,880
that's what i'm talking about

4343
02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:24,160
i want to see this video and uh lou says

4344
02:42:28,630 --> 02:42:26,000
it's definitive

4345
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:28,640
right that there's no question that the

4346
02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:30,399
email came back had the title

4347
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:34,000
that ufo video so let's see that

4348
02:42:38,550 --> 02:42:36,560
he also mentioned that there were more

4349
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:38,560
than one craft

4350
02:42:42,230 --> 02:42:40,720
pretty interesting lou also said that it

4351
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:42,240
was big enough

4352
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:45,120
for maybe a pilot and i think he said or

4353
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:45,520
two

4354
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:48,720
or three like passengers

4355
02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:51,840
that's a whole what is going on

4356
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:53,359
with this video i want to see it let's

4357
02:42:58,630 --> 02:42:55,120
go back to the phones hi you're live on

4358
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:02,230
you're live hi yeah this is josh freeman

4359
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:05,520
hi josh how are you good how are you

4360
02:43:10,150 --> 02:43:08,399
i'm good where are you calling from uh

4361
02:43:13,510 --> 02:43:10,160
radio mass

4362
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:13,520
from massachusetts yeah massachusetts

4363
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:15,279
yeah close enough what's on your mind

4364
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:17,279
josh

4365
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:19,600
um will you talk on clubhouse and have a

4366
02:43:24,950 --> 02:43:21,439
room and talk about this more

4367
02:43:28,070 --> 02:43:24,960
would i do it yeah i've i've got

4368
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:28,080
20 invitations uh to clubhouse i haven't

4369
02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:29,920
accepted any of them are you do you

4370
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,240
think i should do it

4371
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:35,200
yeah absolutely okay all right i've got

4372
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:38,560
plenty of invites that are sitting there

4373
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:40,960
and i i don't know much about clubhouse

4374
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:41,680
those that

4375
02:43:47,269 --> 02:43:45,200
have invited me um say that it's great

4376
02:43:49,110 --> 02:43:47,279
that you've got to jump in over here and

4377
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:49,120
check out what's going on

4378
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:51,840
um you know yeah you could you could

4379
02:43:55,750 --> 02:43:54,000
host a room you could perform a club

4380
02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:55,760
you could bring people in it's like a

4381
02:44:01,110 --> 02:43:58,080
big conference room it's really cool

4382
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:01,120
yeah that's uh everybody says it's great

4383
02:44:05,910 --> 02:44:04,160
i'm gonna i'm gonna be straight up

4384
02:44:07,910 --> 02:44:05,920
i haven't listened to any of it i

4385
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:07,920
haven't checked any of it out

4386
02:44:13,830 --> 02:44:11,200
um and i'm guilty of that but uh

4387
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:13,840
yeah it's just another thing it's a

4388
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:14,960
social media

4389
02:44:18,070 --> 02:44:17,040
um but yeah i mean i heard about you

4390
02:44:19,990 --> 02:44:18,080
directly through

4391
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:20,000
a lot of people i talked to in clubhouse

4392
02:44:23,830 --> 02:44:22,080
so right i bought my own

4393
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:23,840
club in there called the un ufo

4394
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:25,920
department so that's my most popular

4395
02:44:29,110 --> 02:44:26,640
club

4396
02:44:30,830 --> 02:44:29,120
oh right on right on yeah yeah i mean

4397
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:30,840
i've heard

4398
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:34,080
uh from is some of my friend dude man

4399
02:44:37,910 --> 02:44:34,720
did you

4400
02:44:40,469 --> 02:44:37,920
today

4401
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:40,479
and so you know i get you know and some

4402
02:44:46,309 --> 02:44:42,080
of these rooms have you know 10

4403
02:44:48,150 --> 02:44:46,319
000 people right oh well yeah i mean

4404
02:44:50,309 --> 02:44:48,160
when elon musk came on it was like

4405
02:44:52,389 --> 02:44:50,319
five thousand uh in one room and then

4406
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:52,399
over four rooms and it was incredible

4407
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:55,920
yeah yeah but yeah david's clubhouse

4408
02:45:01,110 --> 02:44:59,359
uh dr greer has been on um alexander was

4409
02:45:04,230 --> 02:45:01,120
on the other day

4410
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:04,240
um but yeah i mean and and i'm really

4411
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:05,680
impressed with your website and your

4412
02:45:08,150 --> 02:45:07,439
format of how you stream the multiple

4413
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:08,160
platforms

4414
02:45:13,990 --> 02:45:11,920
it's really good yeah we yeah we decided

4415
02:45:17,190 --> 02:45:14,000
to do that very early on which

4416
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:17,200
was just get it out there for free uh to

4417
02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:20,560
as many platforms as possible and uh and

4418
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:22,000
just put it out there just put it out

4419
02:45:25,590 --> 02:45:23,680
just put it out and

4420
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:25,600
and everybody can you know when it's

4421
02:45:29,750 --> 02:45:27,760
live you can get

4422
02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:29,760
in the mix on here i'd love to hear him

4423
02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:31,680
uh with this whole group too

4424
02:45:35,670 --> 02:45:34,720
yeah i was i've been watching their 2016

4425
02:45:38,309 --> 02:45:35,680
interview with him

4426
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:38,319
and that's how i learned about you oh

4427
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:39,200
was that that

4428
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:42,720
long ago when i interviewed yeah

4429
02:45:48,000 --> 02:45:52,950
that had to have been 2018.

4430
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:55,990
it had to i don't know was it 2016 was

4431
02:45:59,429 --> 02:45:58,399
it five years ago yeah yeah yeah all

4432
02:46:01,990 --> 02:45:59,439
right somebody

4433
02:46:03,349 --> 02:46:02,000
i loved his i love his music and my my i

4434
02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:03,359
had a band in college and he played his

4435
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:05,600
music and then when he got into ufos and

4436
02:46:09,110 --> 02:46:06,319
like uh

4437
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:09,120
like hal pitov i i've met hal i've met

4438
02:46:13,269 --> 02:46:10,000
eric davis

4439
02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:13,279
um you know and i had no idea that these

4440
02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:15,520
guys were like so super famous like this

4441
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:16,160
when i was

4442
02:46:20,150 --> 02:46:18,080
like uh uh hanging out with him

4443
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:20,160
basically wow

4444
02:46:25,750 --> 02:46:24,080
wow okay um yeah uh there you go josh

4445
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:25,760
hanging out with eric davis

4446
02:46:31,910 --> 02:46:28,800
yeah well yeah what is that

4447
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:34,150
i need somebody to pop up in twitter

4448
02:46:38,309 --> 02:46:35,279
when was that uh

4449
02:46:41,830 --> 02:46:38,319
tom delong interview what year was that

4450
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:41,840
um 2016 just seems too long ago

4451
02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:44,240
maybe it was five years ago was it

4452
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:46,479
before ttsa

4453
02:46:54,630 --> 02:46:49,840
or was it after no it was third

4454
02:46:59,429 --> 02:46:54,640
okay well ttsa was 2017.

4455
02:47:02,469 --> 02:47:01,510
i don't know i don't know i don't know

4456
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:02,479
thank you so much

4457
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:05,680
josh and uh i'll check out clubhouse

4458
02:47:09,830 --> 02:47:08,080
all right i i'll make the commitment

4459
02:47:13,750 --> 02:47:09,840
i'll jump in and

4460
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:13,760
and uh and and and tip my yeah on august

4461
02:47:17,670 --> 02:47:16,960
tuesday august 30 2016 it says tom

4462
02:47:20,469 --> 02:47:17,680
delong

4463
02:47:21,830 --> 02:47:20,479
secret machines to the stars academy at

4464
02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:21,840
tom delong

4465
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:23,920
live with live the jimmy church okay

4466
02:47:30,389 --> 02:47:26,399
well there you go 2016 five years ago

4467
02:47:33,750 --> 02:47:30,399
who knew yeah episode 515.

4468
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:33,760
there you go uh where did the time go i

4469
02:47:38,550 --> 02:47:36,080
thought it was like yesterday

4470
02:47:41,110 --> 02:47:38,560
uh thank you for that josh and uh i'm

4471
02:47:43,510 --> 02:47:41,120
gonna check out the clubhouse

4472
02:47:44,870 --> 02:47:43,520
i'd love to yeah that'd be awesome have

4473
02:47:46,870 --> 02:47:44,880
a great night we'll see you tomorrow

4474
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:46,880
night right here

4475
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:50,080
great thanks yeah thank you um wow that

4476
02:47:54,389 --> 02:47:50,479
was

4477
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:54,399
really 2016.

4478
02:48:02,710 --> 02:47:59,680
holy crap five years ago

4479
02:48:03,110 --> 02:48:02,720
oh man i remember the show uh what was

4480
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:03,120
it

4481
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,640
we talked a lot about in the beginning

4482
02:48:09,750 --> 02:48:06,720
about travis barker

4483
02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:09,760
punk rock music and guitars

4484
02:48:13,750 --> 02:48:12,160
and then got things rolling into the ufo

4485
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:13,760
thing and i remember

4486
02:48:17,190 --> 02:48:15,600
there was one interesting thing about

4487
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:17,200
that particular show

4488
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:20,240
that he didn't

4489
02:48:26,550 --> 02:48:24,000
want to do it from a single location

4490
02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:26,560
that he wanted to i don't know if you

4491
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:28,479
guys picked up on this

4492
02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:32,080
but he had to drive around

4493
02:48:35,830 --> 02:48:35,279
in his car and that's what he did he

4494
02:48:38,309 --> 02:48:35,840
stayed

4495
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:38,319
mobile for that interview i don't know

4496
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:39,840
if you guys know that

4497
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:44,080
but uh yeah it was like that

4498
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:45,760
i can't believe that was five years ago

4499
02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:47,520
that time the long interview from his

4500
02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:49,120
car was epic

4501
02:48:56,389 --> 02:48:52,880
um yes yes okay there you go

4502
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:56,399
um so that's it right there

4503
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:59,200
wow who knew i i didn't know it was that

4504
02:49:04,389 --> 02:49:00,479
long ago

4505
02:49:08,150 --> 02:49:04,399
yeah there it is huh wow

4506
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:08,160
wow i i i did not know that all right

4507
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:09,840
let's get back to some of these calls

4508
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:12,560
here let's see who is up next

4509
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:16,000
we're going here let's

4510
02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:18,640
see who we have hi you're live on fade

4511
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:21,040
to black who's calling

4512
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:22,880
hey what's up jimmy it's nelson from san

4513
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:26,000
diego hey nelson how are you man

4514
02:49:31,750 --> 02:49:27,920
i'm good man hey that was an awesome

4515
02:49:34,309 --> 02:49:31,760
interview with lou and danny tonight

4516
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:34,319
rockman yeah yes it was and what sticks

4517
02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:36,479
out for you

4518
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:41,600
okay so so lou basically confirmed

4519
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:45,359
that everything that eric davis has

4520
02:49:49,349 --> 02:49:47,520
said am i am i getting that wrong no

4521
02:49:50,389 --> 02:49:49,359
you're not getting that wrong i think

4522
02:49:55,110 --> 02:49:50,399
that lou was

4523
02:49:58,710 --> 02:49:55,120
very direct in his response to that

4524
02:50:01,590 --> 02:49:58,720
right so so when when uh

4525
02:50:03,030 --> 02:50:01,600
when eric uh was quoted in that uh

4526
02:50:03,510 --> 02:50:03,040
forgive me if i'm getting the facts

4527
02:50:05,910 --> 02:50:03,520
wrong

4528
02:50:08,309 --> 02:50:05,920
uh please correct me if i am but wasn't

4529
02:50:10,309 --> 02:50:08,319
eric davis

4530
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:10,319
maybe kind of quoted or something in an

4531
02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:11,920
article saying that

4532
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,640
uh there's been crash retrieval yeah and

4533
02:50:19,349 --> 02:50:15,920
and that is correct

4534
02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:19,359
and what uh that was the new york times

4535
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:23,279
and that was about uh

4536
02:50:31,110 --> 02:50:27,600
i'm gonna say that was probably

4537
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:31,120
six months ago um

4538
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:34,319
that particular uh article

4539
02:50:37,830 --> 02:50:36,880
uh you dropped for a second but i got

4540
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:37,840
you back

4541
02:50:42,710 --> 02:50:41,200
um the the article was about six months

4542
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:42,720
ago and you know what

4543
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:45,359
it may have been a year ago uh but

4544
02:50:48,870 --> 02:50:45,920
buried

4545
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:48,880
in the article down towards the end and

4546
02:50:51,990 --> 02:50:50,640
if you didn't read the entire article

4547
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:52,000
you would have missed it

4548
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,000
but there was this quote from eric davis

4549
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:56,000
that said that he had briefed

4550
02:51:02,830 --> 02:50:59,200
uh the senate and told them

4551
02:51:05,670 --> 02:51:02,840
that we were in possession of

4552
02:51:09,429 --> 02:51:05,680
uh flying

4553
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:09,439
uh vehicles not of this earth craft

4554
02:51:13,510 --> 02:51:12,000
craft that were not of this earth that's

4555
02:51:15,269 --> 02:51:13,520
a pretty direct quote i don't think

4556
02:51:17,590 --> 02:51:15,279
there's any way to read between the

4557
02:51:19,510 --> 02:51:17,600
lines there nelson

4558
02:51:20,870 --> 02:51:19,520
yeah and for a long time there were a

4559
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:20,880
lot of people who

4560
02:51:27,429 --> 02:51:25,040
were you know maybe people who didn't

4561
02:51:30,230 --> 02:51:27,439
who didn't know eric gave the background

4562
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:30,240
uh too well and i'm not saying i do but

4563
02:51:33,269 --> 02:51:32,319
there's a lot of uh people you know

4564
02:51:36,389 --> 02:51:33,279
wondering if

4565
02:51:38,550 --> 02:51:36,399
if there was any credible credibility in

4566
02:51:40,230 --> 02:51:38,560
what this guy is saying and again

4567
02:51:43,510 --> 02:51:40,240
correct me if i'm wrong jimmy but

4568
02:51:45,429 --> 02:51:43,520
did lou basically just say that yeah you

4569
02:51:47,990 --> 02:51:45,439
can trust whatever this guy says

4570
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:48,000
well lou said that uh eric davis does

4571
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:49,760
not lie

4572
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:53,120
so you know i i i've never met eric

4573
02:51:58,230 --> 02:51:53,920
davis

4574
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:58,240
uh i think that uh eric and i

4575
02:52:01,349 --> 02:52:01,040
maybe two or three years ago exchanged

4576
02:52:03,030 --> 02:52:01,359
some

4577
02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:03,040
emails and he said yeah i'd like to come

4578
02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:04,960
on the show um

4579
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:07,520
i think uh things have changed for him

4580
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:08,080
since

4581
02:52:14,230 --> 02:52:11,760
then and and certainly um

4582
02:52:15,750 --> 02:52:14,240
things have developed a bit further and

4583
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:15,760
he's got a new job

4584
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:17,680
so i don't think he's interested in in

4585
02:52:23,030 --> 02:52:19,840
coming on shows like this he's got

4586
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:23,040
other stuff to go and do but uh he was

4587
02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:24,800
he was willing to come on fade to black

4588
02:52:30,790 --> 02:52:27,760
so you got to give him that

4589
02:52:31,190 --> 02:52:30,800
yeah nelson enjoy your night tomorrow

4590
02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:31,200
night

4591
02:52:35,349 --> 02:52:33,200
right here grant cameron i'll see you

4592
02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:35,359
tomorrow night

4593
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:37,840
right on facebook fade to black thank

4594
02:52:43,269 --> 02:52:39,120
you nelson

4595
02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:43,279
and uh yeah uh

4596
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:46,240
that quote was there and i did talk to

4597
02:52:49,750 --> 02:52:46,640
uh

4598
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:49,760
ralph blumenthal very directly about

4599
02:52:53,830 --> 02:52:50,399
this

4600
02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:53,840
um how that got into

4601
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:56,640
uh the new york times article um how do

4602
02:53:02,790 --> 02:52:58,560
you vet your sources

4603
02:53:03,429 --> 02:53:02,800
um and that for the new york times to do

4604
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:03,439
that

4605
02:53:06,790 --> 02:53:06,240
it's a it's a direct quote it's a direct

4606
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:06,800
quote

4607
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:13,840
you have to uh ask about your source on

4608
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:14,560
this

4609
02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:17,600
so i am sure that they ask eric davis

4610
02:53:21,510 --> 02:53:20,000
before they put that in the article uh

4611
02:53:25,269 --> 02:53:21,520
put that in print

4612
02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:25,279
that there was uh uh some facts

4613
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:27,120
backing that up it's an extraordinary

4614
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:29,120
statement let's go back to the phones

4615
02:53:32,950 --> 02:53:30,720
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4616
02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:32,960
calling

4617
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:35,200
uh this is mark sims how you doing jimmy

4618
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:38,000
hey mark how are you man

4619
02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:40,479
i'm doing great listen to the entire

4620
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:43,600
show i thought lou was fantastic and

4621
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:46,800
danny uh is always great to hear

4622
02:53:52,469 --> 02:53:50,160
and he's just got so much to say on so

4623
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:52,479
many topics related to this issue it

4624
02:53:54,950 --> 02:53:52,880
just

4625
02:53:57,590 --> 02:53:54,960
uh i thought your program tonight was

4626
02:53:59,510 --> 02:53:57,600
historic man i really think that uh

4627
02:54:02,630 --> 02:53:59,520
you knocked it out of the park tonight

4628
02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:02,640
well i'm holding up your medallion

4629
02:54:10,309 --> 02:54:06,240
uh to uh to the camera this is mark sims

4630
02:54:12,950 --> 02:54:10,319
you know this um this is extraordinary

4631
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:12,960
and i'm i wear it all the time i'm gonna

4632
02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:14,800
open it up and show everybody what's on

4633
02:54:19,670 --> 02:54:16,479
the inside and

4634
02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:19,680
and uh absolutely incredible so uh mark

4635
02:54:24,389 --> 02:54:22,000
you've got a lot going on right now

4636
02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:24,399
you've got a lot going on and with

4637
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:26,880
everything that you do have going on

4638
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:29,279
and then you listen to a show like this

4639
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:30,560
tonight

4640
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:33,359
um it makes you it must make you feel

4641
02:54:36,309 --> 02:54:34,560
pretty good that you're on the right

4642
02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:36,319
path

4643
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:39,520
yeah it really does and i feel it

4644
02:54:46,630 --> 02:54:42,720
i'm optimistic about her future i i am

4645
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:46,640
so inspired by people like lou alexander

4646
02:54:54,230 --> 02:54:50,560
who it took such extraordinary

4647
02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:54,240
courage and discipline to do what he has

4648
02:54:58,790 --> 02:54:55,200
done

4649
02:55:01,990 --> 02:54:58,800
and um and to weather the storm

4650
02:55:04,710 --> 02:55:02,000
and still adhere to his principles

4651
02:55:05,590 --> 02:55:04,720
uh and to know that there are great men

4652
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:05,600
and women

4653
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:09,359
in our you know military and within

4654
02:55:14,230 --> 02:55:11,920
you know these government agencies that

4655
02:55:17,429 --> 02:55:14,240
have such integrity and are doing

4656
02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:17,439
it the right way um it gives me great

4657
02:55:20,389 --> 02:55:18,080
hope

4658
02:55:22,550 --> 02:55:20,399
there are wonderful people serving this

4659
02:55:23,910 --> 02:55:22,560
country within these organizations that

4660
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:23,920
we so often

4661
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:26,960
you know from the outside demonize

4662
02:55:32,389 --> 02:55:30,000
you know because we just think that you

4663
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:32,399
know everybody inside the dod

4664
02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:34,640
is is keeping this a secret from the

4665
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:35,680
american public

4666
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:38,720
at her detriment and uh and it's just

4667
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:39,439
not true

4668
02:55:43,190 --> 02:55:41,760
these are really good people and i i

4669
02:55:46,550 --> 02:55:43,200
know lou is one of them

4670
02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:46,560
he's proven himself uh i just

4671
02:55:51,510 --> 02:55:49,520
want to really acknowledge his bravery

4672
02:55:54,790 --> 02:55:51,520
and his patriotism

4673
02:55:58,150 --> 02:55:54,800
and anybody who says he's not a patriot

4674
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:58,160
and is is doing something nefarious

4675
02:56:03,830 --> 02:56:01,200
is just misinformed uh so i

4676
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:03,840
i just want to say that for the record

4677
02:56:08,150 --> 02:56:05,680
and then people like danny who have

4678
02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:08,160
committed their lives to shining light

4679
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:10,080
on injustices in the world

4680
02:56:16,389 --> 02:56:13,120
and his track record is second to none

4681
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:16,399
and for him to continue you know

4682
02:56:19,910 --> 02:56:19,520
marching forward uh you know he's just

4683
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:19,920
um

4684
02:56:23,349 --> 02:56:22,080
an inspiration to people like myself and

4685
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:23,359
many others

4686
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:26,560
uh and because of those people and many

4687
02:56:30,309 --> 02:56:27,279
other people

4688
02:56:31,349 --> 02:56:30,319
who go on unnamed you know how many lou

4689
02:56:34,389 --> 02:56:31,359
alexanders

4690
02:56:36,710 --> 02:56:34,399
are there uh who who never were

4691
02:56:39,030 --> 02:56:36,720
offered the chance or were never given

4692
02:56:39,990 --> 02:56:39,040
presented the opportunity to do this but

4693
02:56:43,190 --> 02:56:40,000
still

4694
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:43,200
you know um you know did the right thing

4695
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:45,120
yeah there's not a there's not enough

4696
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:47,279
lou elizondos out there

4697
02:56:50,950 --> 02:56:49,279
uh to be straight i mean there's just

4698
02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:50,960
not enough we need more

4699
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:53,920
um mark before i have to sign off

4700
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:54,800
tonight

4701
02:56:58,550 --> 02:56:57,040
you've got a lot of projects going on

4702
02:57:01,910 --> 02:56:58,560
and i want you to give

4703
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:01,920
the plugs uh you've just launched a new

4704
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:02,800
website

4705
02:57:08,830 --> 02:57:06,160
uh where can everybody go and see that

4706
02:57:10,469 --> 02:57:08,840
uh if everybody goes to

4707
02:57:13,510 --> 02:57:10,479
makingcontact.com

4708
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:13,520
there is a uh little landing page there

4709
02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:15,040
for people to register

4710
02:57:22,070 --> 02:57:18,479
for a early bird discount

4711
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:22,080
for a exclusive

4712
02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:25,760
uh in invitation to join danny sheehan

4713
02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:28,240
and me we're the co-executive producers

4714
02:57:31,670 --> 02:57:29,040
for this

4715
02:57:32,550 --> 02:57:31,680
event coming up in august and you are

4716
02:57:34,550 --> 02:57:32,560
going to be there

4717
02:57:36,070 --> 02:57:34,560
as one of the presenters of many other

4718
02:57:38,630 --> 02:57:36,080
people and this

4719
02:57:39,429 --> 02:57:38,640
is going to be an unprecedented

4720
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:39,439
conference

4721
02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:42,800
taking place on a virtual platform uh

4722
02:57:47,510 --> 02:57:45,279
you know the observation deck and we'll

4723
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:47,520
have a big announcement to make with

4724
02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:50,160
with that and this is where we can come

4725
02:57:55,830 --> 02:57:52,800
together and have a discussion about

4726
02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:55,840
how do we establish a meaningful

4727
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and effective citizens diplomacy

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initiative

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uh like the one that danny was talking

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about

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where we as citizens can reach out

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and establish diplomatic relations uh

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with our extraterrestrial uh family

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members you know

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they they are waiting for us i believe

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this is my personal belief that

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and through my own experience that they

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will respond

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if we reach out to them in peace

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and mutual respect

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and they are ready to talk to us and

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just imagine if we can

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establish contact what they would have

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to share with us

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um about uh you know who they are

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and what you know the the messages

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they've already given witnesses about

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the importance of us to

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take care of our planet and to take care

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of each other and be more

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um more loving and uh

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compassionate uh that we need more of

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that in the world

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and you know be careful with you know

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nuclear weapons you know we've become an

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existential threat to ourselves and

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they've been warning

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us for decades about this and

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uh and you know i think it would be a

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very

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what they would have to share with us

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02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,720
thank you so much mark and again i want

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to remind everybody

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that the website is makingcontact.com

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and the event is coming up in august i'm

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going to be there i'm going to be

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hanging out

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and and mark your work has just been

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invaluable thank you so much

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and uh we'll be uh talking later on this

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week thank you so much mark

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02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:41,040
thank you jimmy have a good night mark

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sims

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the absolute very best right there mark

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sims thank you mark

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and with that i've got to get out of

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here i've got to get out of here

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uh we just went uh pulled a pole uh

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tonight here on fade to black we've got

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a great week tomorrow night

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grant cameron is joining us and i do

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want to remind everybody it's

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an amazing week wednesday night debbie

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cobble

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thursday night from australia ross

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culpard

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i am your host jimmy church what a great

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